It is 100% relevant, and the fact that you ignore it tells me all I need to know.

What do you do when someone can empty a 30 round magazine with their trigger finger faster than someone bump firing? Arrest them? Jerry Miculek can.

Since you can't arrest them, what is the logical conclusion? You ban their weapon instead.

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Originally posted by StorminNormin:
Absolutely insane! I knew there would be people selling bump stocks now for a jacked up price so I thought I would look at Gun Broker to see and they are selling for $300 to $1,600 for just the stock! The one at $1,600 started out at $200 and has 28 bids to get it to the price it is now. That is insane for a device that is not worth even installing.

Well have no fear no body can make any evil profits from those stocks. GunBroker has pulled all listings and banned them from there site. I can add them to the NRA as a group that will get no more money from me.

These stocks functioned the same last week and GunBroker was quite content to make their fees off of them, but now GunBroker says that these stocks are evil.

Alrighty then

Your view of bump stocks depends on your view of whether the government has the power to regulate automatic weapons. If you agree that they do or should, then it seems logical that they have the right to regulate devices that mimic automatic weapons. If you don't agree, then it becomes a much wider discussion.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by Dtech:
I can respect passionate debate and discussion, even if I don't agree with it. Personal attacks and insults, not so much.

Well, I'm still not quite sure what exactly you're advocating here for because the issue--the real issue--is not bump stocks; it's semi-automatic firearms. So again, are you of the position that government should limit or regulate how fast I can pull the trigger, or do you simply want to ban semi-autos outright?

To both, those are yes or no questions.

1. With your finger, NO. Mechanically, with assistance of a device that simulates the rate of fire of a full auto. yes

2. NO WAY!

I got this spastic fanger, y'see. I can shoot real fast with that sucker.

Am I in trouble, ya think?

We have a cancer within that's beginning to metastasize and spread. A cancer of the mind, borne of foolish notions, full of pointless acts, and one that's behind useless laws.

And when it kills us one day it will be because we (that's you guys, the NRA, and others suggesting this) did it to ourselves despite repeated warnings, defying logic, and worse.

I find your ideas and suggestions (on this) disgusting beyond belief. They're shamefully bad notions, traitorous to your own and our own interests, and dangerous to us all.

I'll step away. It takes all I have to be *this* polite about it, and removing this filter and telling you like it is would no doubt get me kicked outta here which I don't want.

You can infer the gist. It's that bad of an idea. And you're that wrong.

Good day, sirs.

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Originally posted by am94pm:

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Originally posted by StorminNormin:
Absolutely insane! I knew there would be people selling bump stocks now for a jacked up price so I thought I would look at Gun Broker to see and they are selling for $300 to $1,600 for just the stock! The one at $1,600 started out at $200 and has 28 bids to get it to the price it is now. That is insane for a device that is not worth even installing.

Well have no fear no body can make any evil profits from those stocks. GunBroker has pulled all listings and banned them from there site. I can add them to the NRA as a group that will get no more money from me.

Just copied/paste. Looks like they are still selling them on the site.

http://www.gunbroker.com/All/B...s=Slide+fire&Sort=13

Really good thread. I'm in the camp that would concede nothing. The libs are just pretending to be reasonable. We all know these folks want us disarmed.

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Originally posted by NK402:
Your view of bump stocks depends on your view of whether the government has the power to regulate automatic weapons. If you agree that they do or should, then it seems logical that they have the right to regulate devices that mimic automatic weapons. If you don't agree, then it becomes a much wider discussion.

Since bump stocks do not create automatic weapons, legally or technically, it does not matter. If people object to devices that "mimic" automatic weapons, what exactly are they objecting to? Are they objecting to the increased wear and tear? The poor accuracy? The environmental impact of so many rounds in such a short time? Whether they admit it or not, they are the objecting to the rate of fire, nothing less.

RATE OF FIRE. They don't care if the trigger is held back once, of actuated 30 times. They object to the rate of fire.

As the poster above, I am done. People could care less about logic and facts. It's all about feelings. Good night.

I don't object to bump fire rate of fire, I object to poor accuracy.

I object to not being allowed to purchase a newly manufactured full auto.

a break for a little levity.

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Originally posted by rangeme101:

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Originally posted by am94pm:

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Originally posted by StorminNormin:
Absolutely insane! I knew there would be people selling bump stocks now for a jacked up price so I thought I would look at Gun Broker to see and they are selling for $300 to $1,600 for just the stock! The one at $1,600 started out at $200 and has 28 bids to get it to the price it is now. That is insane for a device that is not worth even installing.

Well have no fear no body can make any evil profits from those stocks. GunBroker has pulled all listings and banned them from there site. I can add them to the NRA as a group that will get no more money from me.

Just copied/paste. Looks like they are still selling them on the site.

http://www.gunbroker.com/All/B...s=Slide+fire&Sort=13

Well they have reversed themselves or haven't pulled them yet. Below is the email I received earlier.

"Dear AM94PM,

The Management of GunBroker.com has made the decision to no longer allow listings of Bump/Slide Fire stocks or similar items on the site. All existing listings have been removed without winning bidders. Please do not relist these items.

Thank you for your cooperation and continued support.

Thank you,
The Management of GunBroker.com

932736"

Wait till someone makes the Luba hip to these triggers....



Fostech Echo


https://youtu.be/PYThNUVZrYM

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Originally posted by am94pm:

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Originally posted by StorminNormin:
Absolutely insane! I knew there would be people selling bump stocks now for a jacked up price so I thought I would look at Gun Broker to see and they are selling for $300 to $1,600 for just the stock! The one at $1,600 started out at $200 and has 28 bids to get it to the price it is now. That is insane for a device that is not worth even installing.

Well have no fear no body can make any evil profits from those stocks. GunBroker has pulled all listings and banned them from there site. I can add them to the NRA as a group that will get no more money from me.

Not sure what you are talking about but right before my post and right now Gun Broker has a ton of listings selling Bump Stocks. They are happy to make a profit off the high prices people are selling them for.

lol at all of the bump stocks for sale on my local gun classified site. Before this week you might have seen one for sale every few months with zero takers @ 100.00 dollars. Now there are at least nine @ around 400.00 and some have actually sold.

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Originally posted by am94pm:

"Dear AM94PM Please do not relist these items.

Thank you for your cooperation and continued support.

Thank you,
The Management of GunBroker.com

We’re you selling one to get this email?

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Originally posted by mbinky:
It is 100% relevant, and the fact that you ignore it tells me all I need to know.

What do you do when someone can empty a 30 round magazine with their trigger finger faster than someone bump firing? Arrest them? Jerry Miculek can.

Since you can't arrest them, what is the logical conclusion? You ban their weapon instead.

I answered in every post that it doesn't matter how fast someone can pull their finer.

It doesn't matter how slow or fast someone can empty a 30rd mag unassisted. No one is going to ban Jerry. The point is using an assistance device.

The fact that you willfully ignore my point tells me all I need to know.

I can buy a rifle stock, I can buy a 9 inch barrel. Both are perfectly legal until I put that rifle stock on an AR pistol or that barrel on a AR rifle...

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Originally posted by StorminNormin:

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Originally posted by am94pm:

"Dear AM94PM Please do not relist these items.

Thank you for your cooperation and continued support.

Thank you,
The Management of GunBroker.com

We’re you selling one to get this email?

Yes I had one that I had listed a couple of weeks ago. I had it set on auto relist.

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Originally posted by am94pm:

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Originally posted by StorminNormin:

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Originally posted by am94pm:

"Dear AM94PM Please do not relist these items.

Thank you for your cooperation and continued support.

Thank you,
The Management of GunBroker.com

We’re you selling one to get this email?

Yes I had one that I had listed a couple of weeks ago. I had it set on auto relist.

Sounds like they sent an email without backing it up to actually pull ads. Only people such as you actually pulled it on their own. I assume you must have pulled it since many others still have theirs listed. I only ask because I am curious of what Gun Broker is actually doing about this.