My cousin has one on his .223 It's fun, but accuracy suffers a lot. Convinced me that auto fire isn't worth the ammo used. Spray 'n pray isn't a style I am interested in.

This has been all over FOX news (Radio) Sound like this will be aa sacrificial lamb in the upcoming Lib attack on guns...

So, an item becomes banned that almost no gun owner uses.
Stupid.

Such may open the door to a new definition of semi auto.
I don't think we want that.

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Originally posted by lbj:
Such may open the door to a new definition of semi auto.
I don't think we want that.

Exactly what they are going for. Redefine "semi" to mean "rapid" with no definition of rapid (rounds per minute, etc). After they "realize" they can't ban how fast someone's finger moves, well naturally the next step is just to ban that entire class of firearm.

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Originally posted by kilyung:
Bump firing is nothing new. The ATF should ban rubber bands also. Where there’s a will, there’s a way. The law will never be able to legislate away the nutters.

Yep, and belt loops too.

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Originally posted by olfuzzy:
Wednesday on MSNBC, Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) said he had “significant” receptiveness during conversations with his Republican colleagues on legislation to ban gun modifications that convert semi-automatic guns into an automatics, such as a bump-stock reportedly used by the Las Vegas shooter...

http://www.breitbart.com/video...cans-bump-stock-ban/

Could this be the same Richard Blumenthal who, while running for election, claimed he served in Viet Nam but only later remembered he did not?

Bump-Stock Device Received ATF Green Light During Obama Administration

By Susan Jones | October 4, 2017 | 11:19 AM EDT

(CNSNews.com) - On June 7, 2010 -- about a year and a half into the Barack Obama administration -- the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives issued an opinion letter, giving the go-ahead to an after-market accessory that allows the user to “bump fire” a semi-automatic rifle.

A company called Slide Fire had earlier sent its patented replacement shoulder stock to ATF’s Firearms Technology Branch, asking for an evaluation of the device.

The ATF, in reply, wrote: “Your letter advises that the stock (referenced in this reply as a ‘bump stock’) is intended to assist persons whose hands have limited mobility to ‘bump fire’ an AR-15 type rifle.”

The device replaces the factory stock and grip. The replacement stock moves back and forth with the gun's recoil, allowing it to fire rapidly and continuously as the trigger repeatedly is bumped into the shooter’s finger. A switch allows the user to select semi-automatic fire (one shot for each trigger pull) or the more rapid “bump fire.”
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According to the ATF’s June 2010 letter: “The stock has no automatically functioning mechanical parts or springs and performs no automatic mechanical function when installed. In order to use the device, the shooter must apply constant forward pressure with the non-shooting hands and constant rearward pressure with the shooting hand. Accordingly, we find that the ‘bump stock’ is a firearm part and is not regulated as a firearm under the Gun Control Act or the National Firearms Act.”

Slide Fire has posted a copy of the approval letter on its website.

The company also notes, “By definition, our current rifle stocks are not adjustable stocks or trigger manipulation devices.”

An ATF agent told CBS News that the Las Vegas shooter had equipped 12 of the rifles found in his hotel room with bump stocks.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said on Tuesday that she intends to introduce legislation to close what she calls the “automatic weapon loophole,” and some Republicans have indicated they may be open to the idea of banning after-market devices that allow semi-automatic weapons to simulate automatic fire.

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/a...obama-administration

Apparently there must be a run on Slide Fire bump stocks as yesterday you could order them. I went to their website to read more about how the stock works, and today they have suspended new orders to fill orders already placed. There is an article saying republicans are open to banning bump stocks. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/1...d=nytcore-ipad-share

I've looked at them and saw no benefit to them, as others have stated.

I do find it very instructive and worth repeating to those who bring these accessories up, that they were approved to market by the Obama administration.

Until this tragedy occurred...most knowledgable shooters ignored them as an ammo wasting masturbation exercise for YouTube...now they are the hottest thing on the planet and people are lamenting they can't find one...you know, all the cool kids and all...I put them up there with Tannarite...but that's just me.

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Originally posted by Bisleyblackhawk:
Until this tragedy occurred...most knowledgable shooters ignored them as an ammo wasting masturbation exercise for YouTube...now they are the hottest thing on the planet and people are lamenting they can't find one...you know, all the cool kids and all...I put them up there with Tannarite...but that's just me.

SHHHHHHsh, now you're gonna tip them off to Tannerite.

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We need to watch and comment on any proposed legislation carefully. It will be sloppily written and end up affecting all sorts of other accessories such as muzzle brakes, aftermarket triggers of all types, and so on.

I have no use for this stupid thing. A couple of years ago I asked about them on this very forum when I first learned about it. I quickly came to the conclusion that the bump stock is a gimmick and wouldn't want one on my rifle. I just wouldn't care if they ever existed to be honest.

But having said that, I still don't want them banned. I'll fight any new legislation that tries to do so. I don't want any new gun legislation, period. Bunch of useless, feel-good bull.

http://video.foxbusiness.com/v...5001/?#sp=show-clips

GOP lawmaker introduces bipartisan ban on bump stocks

Oct. 05, 2017 - 3:08 - Florida Congressman Carlos Curbelo on writing a bipartisan bill to ban bump stocks.

PREPARE THE SACRIFICE!! SUMMON THE PRIESTS!! ASSEMBLE THE PEOPLE, SO THAT THEY MAY SEE US VANQUISH EVIL!!

Do you guys remember how we got the 10 round magazine ban?

Bill Ruger proposed a 15 round magazine ban. The politicians couldn't contain themselves and did him five better.

I personally have no need for a bump-stock, but additional features like pistol grips, or undesirable parts like "high capacity magazines" could easily be added to whatever legislation gets pushed through in an anti-"bump-stock" bill.

I have no personal use for a bump-stock, but let's not forget a bump-stock, even multiple bump stocks gathered together did not plan, and execute the deadliest mass-shooting in American history. These were the actions of a deranged individual who had the moral capacity to know that what he was doing was wrong. This shooting was planned and executed by a person, not two pieces of molded plastic and a spring.

When we limit the law-abiding in reaction to criminal acts, we impute the consequences of their guilt upon ourselves. Let's just be clear on that before we proceed.

"After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military." - William S. Burroughs

There may be a deal in the works.

Is anyone ok with trading support for bump stock ban in return for freeing suppressors and maybe nationwide CCW?

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Originally posted by JALLEN:
There may be a deal in the works.

Is anyone ok with tradung support for bump stock ban in return for freeung suppressors abd maybe nationwide CCW?

I supposed anything can be slipped in at the last minute by either side but how likely is that?

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Originally posted by JALLEN:
There may be a deal in the works.

Is anyone ok with trading support for bump stock ban in return for freeing suppressors and maybe nationwide CCW?

Nope. We shouldn't negotiate with terrorists.