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Incorrect link in the OP, this is the right one: https://www.warhistoryonline.c...rticles/phantom.html BTW, those J79s belch out a LOT of smoke. It must drive the libs crazy. | |||
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hello darkness my old friend |
That Phantom would look great in my driveway. Pretty sure my damn HOA would have a shitfit. | |||
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goodheart |
Navyshooter, you need to give us a heads up next time there’s a show, so we San Diegans can head up there! Meanwhile, I just found out that my co-Grandpa’s boss, in addition to running the business where my co-Grandpa works, owns 11 F-5’s that he hires out as aggressor squadrons for war games, presumably over in Nevada or Arizona. He gets them from other countries, fixes ‘em up, and rents ‘em out. Part of the deal is he gets to keep one of his own. How’s that for a “sound” investment? _________________________ “Remember, remember the fifth of November!" | |||
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Low Speed, High Drag |
I'll try. Typically I only know when something buzzes my house then its "Grab a beer and head to the back yard". "Blessed is he who when facing his own demise, thinks only of his front sight.” Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem Montani Semper Liberi | |||
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Can I get that Fulcrum in all black with gold trim? ———- Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for thou art crunchy and taste good with catsup. | |||
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Here's a few more Double Ugly's for sale :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?...ue=364&v=pg8-mx4KGK8 Sorry, don't know how to embed the video | |||
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Coin Sniper |
McDonnell Douglas Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | |||
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Spiritually Imperfect |
Sigh. I'm under the flight path of KHTS and KHTW. Not much goes on, but it's better than nothing. | |||
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A starter motor will cost far more than that. A small turboprop engine will be half a million to overhaul; the J-79 will cost substantially more than that. A surplus motor that's theoretically serviceable today will run about three quarter of a million (and far more); an overhaul can be expected to be higher than that, and a rebuilt considerably more. A fuel control alone may run several hundred thousand dollars. You're right that the hourly costs will be high, for a private owner probably well north of 50,000. Engines of this type aren't run on a time between overhauls, but on a much costlier (and necessary) continuous airworthiness program. The cost to maintain those hot seats, alone, will be very high, let alone the rest of the aircraft. it's one thing for a large organization to maintain something like the F-4, with maintenance and training available and a taxpayer for insurance; very different for an owner to do. Would be a cool toy though. | |||
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Ammoholic |
Check out the rate of climb and the service ceiling. I wonder if there is an error or the thing will really get to the service ceiling in less than a minute. Sounds like fun! | |||
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I have not yet begun to procrastinate |
^^^^ After seeing an F15 do a max climb, it wouldn't surprise me. Here and GONE out of sight of my binoculars in less time than it took me to type this! -------- After the game, the King and the pawn go into the same box. | |||
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אַרְיֵה |
Certifications? You would need a Type Rating (required for jet aircraft). Fly it VFR? Yes. A Type Rating can be issued with a VFR-only restriction. I believe that John Travolta's initial Type Rating, when he first got his Lear, was restricted to VFR only. VFR would limit you to a maximum altitude of 17,999' and the fuel burn would be horrendous at low altitudes. But, if you can afford the maintenance, you can probably afford the fuel. הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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Forget the rebuilds, find a friend that works at Pratt & Whitney to give you a deal on the second generation (3rd?) engines they put in some US models and also sold to Israel! | |||
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No type rating available for the F4. It would require a Letter of Authorization or Aircraft Authorization, which creates a special problem. Both a LoA and a type rating requires an inspector or examiner with authority on the type, and training on type. The F4 was never issued a type certificate and doesn't have a standard type rating available. It also requires significant comparable experience. https://registry.faa.gov/TypeRatings/ An Aircraft Authorization can be issued. The basic pilot minimums are: http://fsims.faa.gov/wdocs/890...9/05_009_002rev1.htm
The F4 is a Group IX Experimental Vintage aircraft category airplane with an experimental designation of DC-F4, with no type designation available or issued. The Collings Foundation offers "flight training" in the F4 and A4, and even a replica ME262 (type rating available at $3,500/hr for training). The hard part for a private purchaser will be having adequate comparable experience to qualify for an authorization in the first place, so 99% of what the Collings Foundation does is joyrides that are cited as "flight training" to skirt the regulation and to account for the minimum training for the seat, etc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...YZc&feature=youtu.be A 40 minute ride in the F4 will be $15,000. https://www.collingsfoundation...t-training-programs/ | |||
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Certified Plane Pusher |
Could buy an A4 Skyhawk: A4 Skyhawk For Sale Side note: currently owned by a former Blue Angel pilot who flew A4s when the Blues used A4s. Situation awareness is defined as a continuous extraction of environmental information, integration of this information with previous knowledge to form a coherent mental picture in directing further perception and anticipating future events. Simply put, situational awareness mean knowing what is going on around you. | |||
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Charmingly unsophisticated |
OOooooooo.....they have a Spitfire for sale!! TWO!!! _______________________________ The artist formerly known as AllenInWV | |||
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