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I used Mark123's search function and found a few older threads, but they are mainly focused on pepper spray for humans.

I'm looking for something for animals. We are in a suburban area. My wife wants something to carry around our property that would be effective for coyotes, aggressive raccoons, and the occasional black bear.

The coyotes usually retreat from humans, but a man walking his dog (a good size boxer) in our neighborhood was attacked by a pair of them.

Raccoons will usually back off, but not always.

Our security cameras regularly pick up fairly large black bears in our driveway or backyard. No in-person encounters -- yet.

Looking for recommendations, both brand and type of spray: stream, fog, foam, gel?



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For the critters you list, I’d be inclined to use bear spray, if for no other reason than the range/distance of the spray.
 
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Counter Assault bear spray will work well. Just be careful with the wind. You do not want a face full of it.


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IIRC the USPS carriers carried Halt! dog spray. I have no idea how effective it would be on the other critters you mention - but back in the day I was a pretty avid cyclist and carried it. Had one encounter with a GSD and it stopped him in his tracks.

The other end of the spectrum would be bear spray, but then there's this...


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Originally posted by V-Tail:
I used Mark123's search function and found a few older threads, but they are mainly focused on pepper spray for humans.
It's roughly the same formula people or animal. The major difference is volume of cannister which is based on size of mammal.

The Halt that USPS carriers may elect to carry is 1.5 ounces. The cone from releasing it is about 10 feet in ideal conditions.

For bears, the Counter Assault spray is 2% capsaicin and related capsaicinoids. They have a 8.2 ounce (7 seconds of spray) and a 10.2 ounce (8 seconds of spray). The goal is to put out a cone over a long distance and in ideal conditions the 8.2 oz is 32 feet and the 10.2 oz if 40 feet. I had the 8.2 ounce when I lived in Anchorage, AK, and had loners for visitors. My preferred plan was:
  • for me to carry a large bore revolver and have the the others hiking/fishing carry the Counterassault.
  • in the event of a negative bear encounter, plan A was for them to shoot a 2 second burst of counter assault as a deterrent. If that didn't work, then plan B was for them to empty the counterassault while I empty the .454 casull. Thankfully all of my bear encounters were positive and never had to clear leather.

    The gel I carry when I go on a walk is Sabre defense . Sabre one of the two popular brands for LEOs and prison guards. It's 1.5 oz and has a spray distance of 18 feet. Gel isn't deployed in a cone, but instead is aimed an person's or animals eyes and nose. I'd rather try to dissuade a dog with the Sabre and use my concealed carry as back-up.



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    Anything in the 1.5-2% range
    Get the one with a cone or fogger
    And the small 1.5 oz will work for a one time use.

    Also, expect it not to work.

    As in always have a plan B- mine involves a 1911.

    I’ve sprayed a few pit bulls that were at a dogfight and couldn’t separate them. The OC didn’t phase them, nor did a fire extinguisher, or an ASP collapsing baton



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    I've been told that dogs have different mucus membranes which is why there is a separate type of dog pepper spray.

    Someone who knows more may be able to confirm or debunk this though.




     
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