What are the pros and cons of a future that has the USA amending it's borders to include Mexico?

Never going to happen. We don't want to inherit millions of problems into an already strained system.

Ho Lee Chit: NO!

We almost did after the Mexican-American War, but it was too much of a mess. It hasn't gotten much better.

The best way to get dog shit off your shoe isn't to go roll around and do the worm in the yard.

We need another mega blue state like a fish needs a bicycle.

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Never going to happen.

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Originally posted by KSGM:
What are the pros and cons of a future that has the USA amending it's borders to include Mexico?

How might such a thing happen?

"Hi, it's Uncle Sam! Mind if we come in?"

"No, not at all."

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Originally posted by KSGM:
What are the pros and cons of a future that has the USA amending it's borders to include Mexico?

Why do you ask?

Pros, really?

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How might such a thing happen?

I have no idea. Diplomatically?

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Why do you ask?

No reason in particular. Just an half-formed though occurred during my morning busy work. I don't know enough about the subtle aspects to propose anything more than the mere silly thought.

This question was prompted by the thought that we often complain of the corruption and cartel influence in Mexico, and how we are powerless to stop it. We wouldn't be powerless to fight cartels that are subject to our laws. Perhaps there are resources to gain. I always got the impression the Mexican population is largely Christian. I don't know all there is to know, nor am invested in the hypothetical incorporation. I figured the "brain trust" would be able to quickly break down the pros and cons to such an idea.

We don't like cartels and other criminals. We do like Christians. We don't like illegal immigration and resulting handouts. We do like hard workers. Anything made in Mexico would be instead made in the USA. I know all this stuff isn't that simple, but I think it's interesting to imagine associated outcomes of such an incorporation.

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Originally posted by KSGM:
What are the pros and cons of a future that has the USA amending it's borders to include Mexico?

I thought Biden already did that?
Oh, you mean like put them ALL on welfare, all at once, without having to get up and move?

Naa...

The only "pro" I can think of is that the southern border of Mexico is a lot shorter and so it would be easier to wall off from the rest of S. America?

You been drinkin’?

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How might such a thing happen?

I have no idea. Diplomatically?

Sovereign nations do not allow themselves to be gobbled up simply because a neighbor asks.

Maybe a simple graph as to the pros and cons?

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Sovereign nations do not allow themselves to be gobbled up simply because a neighbor asks.

Indeed. I wonder what the Mexican people's vote would be, on such a proposal. The government, as influenced by the country's criminality, would likely oppose it. The concept of national pride did occur to me. Having pride in something so apparently crummy is counterintuitive, IMO.

Of course the welfare strain that chellim1 mentioned is a real thing. We now seem poised to address this flawed system. If the system wasn't broken, that con would be mitigated.

It's becoming apparent that the weeds are too tall. The question almost immediately ends up in the weeds, and they're not navigable.

It's completely infeasible, and more importantly, it's not desirable at all.

Even if there were some way to do it short of outright military invasion and forcible annexation (never gonna happen), there's literally no upside to it for the US.

For one, we can barely keep our own infrastructure from falling apart. How would we be able to handle suddenly inheriting hundreds of thousands of square miles of 3rd world country?

Not to mention that all the rampant crime, poverty, corruption, and drugs that plague Mexico will suddenly become 100% our problem.

Then there's the cultural and language divide.

Etc.

You know how you love being American, how you love America? Well, there's Mexicans who love being Mexican, they love Mexico. Now sure, there's probably more than a few down there who would absolutely love to become Americans themselves, but I think the majority of the 128 million people would be very upset to suddenly wake up tomorrow in a brand new country they never asked for.

You worried about violent cartel thugs now? Just wait until it's an insurgency, because that's what we'll get. And without any border at all to stop these new citizens, they'll be able to carry the fight wherever they like.

At least the video games we get based on it in a few years would be fire, that's a pro.

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At least the video games we get based on it in a few years would be fire, that's a pro.

Hahaha. All very good con points, airsoft guy.

I have always been baffled that the proud Mexicans don't do more to fix their country. Though I do understand that they're limited in their ability to oppose corruption, due to their lack of many of our uniquely American rights.