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Political Cynic
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We have enough of our own problems. Why in hell would we willingly take on more?
 
Posts: 54052 | Location: Tucson Arizona | Registered: January 16, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Just for the
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No and hell no.

Mexico also would not allow that to happen. Mexico is its own country they are not going to say oh let's get gobbled up by our neighbor to the north.


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Oriental Redneck
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Anything on this previous comment of Gustofer's?

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There’s just no political will to do it.

Will that be the case in the upcoming sequel Trump administration? It seems to me that an improvement in conditions in Mexico would soften the blows at the border.

Ridiculous. How do you suggest we outsiders, the US, make improvement in Mexico, when "the proud Mexicans don't do more to fix their country" (your quote)? Send them a strongly worded letter? Pour more money into the place like we're doing in Ukraine right now? Invade their country and take out the bad guys? Send a million missionaries down there? Give me more great ideas, here, man. Btw, the Mexicans aren't doing anything to fix their country, let alone doing "more".

I can't even understand why you started this thread with the ridiculous nonstarter questions "Could/should the USA incorporate Mexico?" "...the USA amending it's borders to include Mexico?". Just like that, huh?



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Mexico is a barely functioning democracy with not a lot of real tradition in that arena. Corruption is endemic. The head of the national anti-kidnapping task force was also a leader of the largest kidnapping gang. The cartels are deep in everything. Imagine the worst most corrupt city in the US. Now multiply the dysfunction by 1000. Spread that over 128 million people, most of whom don’t speak English and want no part of being part of the US. Would you have Mexico be a territory? That won’t fly. Multiple states? Nobody wants anything to do with any of this.
 
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My apologies, fellas. This has been a small taste of dumb shit my wife has to put up with all the time. Poor woman.

Imagine two stoners on a grassy hillside, laying on their backs, contemplating the cosmos, passing a joint back and forth. I am one of those stoners. Metaphorically.

"Bro, you know all this hubbub about the border with Mexico? What if the border just wasn't there, bro. Like, what if Mexico was part of the US?"

"Dude. Faaaar out!"


Yeah. I do that shit all the time. I'll persist just long enough that it seems like I am genuinely invested in the idea, because I want to satisfy my curiosity across however many angles I perceive, and then I am satisfied that the thing has run it's course.

Thanks, team!

This annoying trait of mine has cropped up in firearm and training-related threads multiple times. I don't typically venture into international politics. Good thing!
 
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Mmmmmm ... TACOS!




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Oriental Redneck
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...This annoying trait of mine has cropped up in firearm and training-related threads multiple times. I don't typically venture into international politics. Good thing!

I actually enjoy your firearm discussion posts, because they deal with facts. What we have here is fantasy. So, my recommendation is, stay in Mason's Rifle Room. j/k j/k... Razz


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I hear ya, man. The Lounge is a scary place.
 
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Mmmmmm ... TACOS!



See, this man knows what's up!

I hear their taco bowls are even better than Trump Tower's. Eek



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Just declare Mexico and Extraterritorial Jurisdiction (ETJ) without their consent. Then we can regulate the crap out of them. That's what cities do to us in the good ole USA!


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I believe this is how the US acquired California.
 
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I believe this is how the US acquired California.

If enough of us just move there...



...fuck that.



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How much are the Mexicans paying you to toss that idea around? Wink

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Now Canada...I'd go for taking most of western Canada, and they would probably be happy to come along. I'd leave out Vancouver though, we don't need another San Francisco.
Quebec? Merde alors!


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Just because you can, doesn't mean you should...




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We have enough of our own problems. Why in hell would we willingly take on more?


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The simple answer is, it’s too late for that. There was a window after the Mexican-American war that it could have worked. We opted for the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo and paid Mexico some odd millions for the land we conquered. It was not stolen as some assert. With that cash, Mexico survived and rebuilt.

Since then our cultures moved antipodally. We advanced while corruption prevented their advancement. Now we are two societies spinning at dissimilar rates. If they were to merge, friction would be destructive. It’s sad really. Mexico is beautiful and rich in resources. The average patriotic citizen there is just like you and me. Or at least it was so 45 years ago when I lived there for a few years.

There’s no chance of a union now absent some unilateral collapse.



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The simple answer is, it’s too late for that. There was a window after the Mexican-American war that it could have worked. We opted for the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo and paid Mexico some odd millions for the land we conquered. It was not stolen as some assert. With that cash, Mexico survived and rebuilt.

Since then our cultures moved antipodally. We advanced while corruption prevented their advancement. Now we are two societies spinning at dissimilar rates. If they were to merge, friction would be destructive. It’s sad really. Mexico is beautiful and rich in resources. The average patriotic citizen there is just like you and me. Or at least it was so 45 years ago when I lived there for a few years.

There’s no chance of a union now absent some unilateral collapse.


Thank you. Well thought out and presented without any ill will.

It is a pity it can't work, gaining valuable turf is usually a great idea.
 
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