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Seriously ? Of course it was off the table . Absolutely no need for it . | |||
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| hello darkness my old friend  |
Yeah that dick is going to get fired. I am very happy that will be the result. Glad the deputy pulled him over. I am happy to say in my LEO career I pulled over several officers mostly detectives in unmarked cars and never for anything serious. We did have a newer officer in my city who was very impressed when he made it into a special unit and got an unmarked car. He drove by one of out traffic units intentionally speeding and thought it would be funny to flee as a joke. When he finally pulled over, thinking it would be funny, he was surprised when we cuffed him and stuffed him for a ride to the office. He was quickly fired. He wasn't laughing when we drove him home with a box of his junk. | |||
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| Little ray of sunshine  |
That argument, as we say, proves too much. If you are correct, then all pursuits, or at least all pursuits for traffic violations, are not justified. Is that what you intend? The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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| Thank you Very little  |
There are places where pursuits are off limits in the US, it's a valid argument the concerns about running 100MPH to catch someone who is dangerously running 80 MPH in a 45 zone over a traffic violation. I'm not one against pursuits, it wasn't a case of catching someone who has robbed a bank, stolen a vehicle or murder suspect, at what level does it become prudent to chase, and do simple traffic violations warrant the response. I can tell you if that OPD officer was running from one of Sheriff Grady Judd's Polk County Deputy's they'd have pulled him over, guns drawn, tasers out, shouts of on the ground mofo, cuffed him in the back and he'd have been in jail in no time...  | |||
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Thing is, you don't "know" that. At some point, a speeding vehicle can be considered felony flight... __________________________________ NRA Benefactor I lost all my weapons in a boating, umm, accident. http://www.aufamily.com/forums/ | |||
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Should have tased his cocky ass. ----------------------------------------- Roll Tide! Glock Certified Armorer NRA Certified Firearms Instructor | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower  |
I wouldn't mind seeing it, but letting him leave was the correct thing to do. | |||
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Agreed. There was enough stuff to ID the perp officer while foregoing the risk of getting shot should the perp officer go beserk. If he was stupid enough to do what he did, he was possibly stupid enough to do worse, esp. considering his sense of entitlement, being armed, and having a few screws loose while being in a state of agitation etc. Lover of the US Constitution Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster | |||
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I don't know why, but for some reason I just want to see follow up on this, like WTF was he thinking. Surely he didn't think he was going to skate on this. Don't they do psych screens on new hires? How long had he been a cop and did he have any other blemishes on his record? Was he contrite when they fired his ass? I just don't get how such a self-destructive person makes it into this career choice and lasts more than a few weeks. | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower |
Actually, I believe he did, or thought that chances were that it would not be reported. He gambled and lost and it just may have prevented a far greater problem later on. | |||
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| Ammoholic |
He might not have skated, but he’d have had a lot better chance of it (and a lot less grief at the end of the day even if he didn’t skate) if he had apologized and cooperated. Not his best decision ever. | |||
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| Ice age heat wave, cant complain.  |
A few years back, OPD was in some hot water after one of their officers was caught on video smacking a cuffed individual around. He was fired but won his suit against the city and then, subsequently reinstated. I'm interested to see how this one plays out. Some years have passed since then, the world of policing and the related optics are very different. This guy comes off as an asshole, but I don't know where these charges rank in the "give a fuck" meter for OPD head shed. NRA Life Member Steak: Rare. Coffee: Black. Bourbon: Neat. | |||
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| Thank you Very little |
The video has gone viral, popped up on the Daily Mail feed on Facebook and lots of comments, if the heat stays on, OPD will have to at least deal with it, they won't be able to sweep it under the rug... You could always send an email to Internal Affairs Contact Us Phone 407.246.2352 Email opdinternalaffairs@orlando.gov Link to OPD IAD | |||
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Age Quod Agis |
I know something of the internal politics of Orlando, having a number of friends and acquaintances who work there. I figure this guy is straight up fucked. He does not have the skin tone to survive this much bad publicity in this city. Hell, even guys with darker skin tones get fired here if they make the national news. For example, The Orlando Fire Chief. He resigned, but he was going to get fired. This lower level dope is hopelessly screwed. "I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation." Alfred Hornik, Sunday, December 2, 1945 to his family, on his continuing duty to others for surviving WW II. | |||
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Letting the guy go and letting the guys with all of the brass on their collars deal with it at an administrative level was absolutely the right call .That's where it would have ended up anyway . | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money  |
I took you up on that... And got an email back, form letter, but quick: Good afternoon, The Orlando Police Department was notified by the Seminole County Sheriff's Office on Friday, June 9th that OPD Officer Alexander Shaouni was involved in an incident that occurred in Seminole County that resulted in criminal charges. Officer Shaouni has been relieved of duty pending the Seminole County Sheriff's criminal investigation and OPD's Internal Affairs investigation. Any further information on the criminal investigation will have to be obtained from the Seminole County Sheriff's Office. Your comments have been documented. Thank you, [name redacted] Internal Affairs Section Investigator Orlando Police Department "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Not my monkey , not my circus . | |||
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| Ice age heat wave, cant complain. |
I love how OPD is punting to SCSO. NRA Life Member Steak: Rare. Coffee: Black. Bourbon: Neat. | |||
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Outstanding Chellim | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower |
Sounds to me like a threat. | |||
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