When I did search on YT "2A rally live" I got one valid response:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ8xjg7mcgE

Followed with a string CBS and other anti responses.
Many white supremacist and violence propaganda.

Sad on what YT has become.

Pretty quiet, lots of people, but they are all peacefully walking around - probably too cold for antifa.

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Originally posted by ASKSmith:
Breitbart seems to be working again.

Stick, did you live in VA in the mid-90’s? VA started a crime prevention program called Projext Exile. Basically, if you used a firearm in the commission of a crime, it was an automatic 5yrs added to your sentence. Going off the top of my head, it dropped firearm related crimes about 33%. And now VA has become this...

Michigan enacted a Firearm Enhancement clause, two years added to a sentence when a firearm was used in commission of a crime, this was about 1975 or so. Later on it started being used as a chip in plea bargains.

Funny how the MSM is interviewing a woman carrying an AR-15 saying how she is one of the only women they've seen there, and they would like her opinion because its mostly men. And in the time it took them to say this, at least 5 women walked by in the background.



I saw this on the Brietbart stream - glad they got it on their feed

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Originally posted by Dzozer:
Funny how the MSM is interviewing a woman carrying an AR-15 saying how she is one of the only women they've seen there, and they would like her opinion because its mostly men. And in the time it took them to say this, at least 5 women walked by in the background.

Baghdad Bob lives!

Probably ignoring all the rainbow Gadsens too. Can't let the truth get in the way of a good narrative.

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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
Pretty quiet, lots of people, but they are all peacefully walking around - probably too cold for antifa.

That and they haven’t awakened yet from mom’s basement.

The Rally is now the uppermost story on the FOX site.

Going to be a nerve wracking day hoping this goes well and no one gives the MSM/Anti's any ammunition.

I believe we need to stop worrying about giving the MSM "ammunition". If they don't get it, they will create it, or manufacture it.

Worrying about giving the anti's "ammunition" is about like avoiding standing up to the Iranian's because they might do terrorism. The left is full of hypocrites. They only care about winning. They don't care how much they have to bend their "principles" to win. Now, this doesn't give us a license to do stupid shit. Sooner than later, our "cause" had better wake up to the fact that rallying around fake social media "red flag kill the police" BS. Some members have fallen for that once, and looking at another thread, they find themselves willing to fall for it time and time again like Lucy and the football. THIS is what hurts "us".

What is going to be telling is if nothing at all happens today. That is going to be a huge clue as to what the left's infrastructure is afraid of.

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Originally posted by ASKSmith:

Stick, did you live in VA in the mid-90’s? VA started a crime prevention program called Projext Exile. Basically, if you used a firearm in the commission of a crime, it was an automatic 5yrs added to your sentence. Going off the top of my head, it dropped firearm related crimes about 33%. And now VA has become this...

I remember that as an NRA inspired program. It also mandated it be prosecuted on Fed side (stiffer penalties??) in order to prevent revolving door.

As of now, it was a peaceful protest. I heard reports of 130,000 in attendance. Capitol police said it was the largest crowd they had seen.

The fight isn’t over...

I love reading these VA threads and seeing the footage on tv. But I have to wonder what the endgame is here. Do people really think the VA Dems are just gonna give up? Has that ever happened? The gov. is term-limited to one term in VA, so he doesn't have to worry about running again. Any recall effort would likely take longer than the time he has left in office. GDC don't change their stripes. So the only way to really end this is to flip the legislature. I'd say the number of 2nd Amendment Sanctuary Counties and LE being on the right side is the best we're gonna get until the next election.

^^ Agreed, but the biggest thing the VA Dems fear is that the legislature will be flipped, and that a Republican will be elected to replace the incumbent after his one term in office. The Dems therefore have to be asking themselves if moving this legislation forward will help them stay in office long enough to consolidate the Party's power in Virginia or mobilize enough pro-2A voters to keep the Dems from staying in office long enough to consolidate the Party's power in Virginia.

You're right - but this is the first step to addressing the problems you've identified

Rick,

You are missing a huge point. The "next" election is 9 months away. Elections to the federal govt, not the state govt.

Step 1, get Virginia voters fired up and keep them fired up.

Step 2, Hammer DEMs in the Nov 2020 election

Step 3, Keep right on rolling w the enthusiasm and alliances to gear up to hammer DEMs in 2021 state elections

We need to learn the lesson that political action by everyday citizens is not something that is needed every 4 years. It is something that more people have to make a routine activity. To some degree. To some level.

What is the endgame ? Take Virginia back from the DEM tyrants who think they are ruling over us. Make our friends and relatives who vote DEM feel pretty uncomfortable and even "unwelcome" if that is necessary.

And if we collectively act as a coordinated group, we fight with mass defiance of unconstitutional laws.

The endgame comes in November of 2021. So gun owners need to be in it for the long haul. Not much is going to really happen until the voters of VA either replace the anti-gun governor and legislators, or don't. Until then it all preamble.

An interesting test of the real electoral impact of all this will be the 2020 national election. If VA goes Republican, 2021 will be looking good.

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Originally posted by Rick Lee:
I love reading these VA threads and seeing the footage on tv. But I have to wonder what the endgame is here. Do people really think the VA Dems are just gonna give up? Has that ever happened? The gov. is term-limited to one term in VA, so he doesn't have to worry about running again. Any recall effort would likely take longer than the time he has left in office. GDC don't change their stripes. So the only way to really end this is to flip the legislature. I'd say the number of 2nd Amendment Sanctuary Counties and LE being on the right side is the best we're gonna get until the next election.

I kind of wish Trump would just come out and promise to federalize the VA Nat. Guard if Northam tries to activate them to enforce gun laws. That would make Northam totally impotent. He could rail against guns all he wanted, knowing the state and local police won't help him and he'd lose the Nat. Guard if he tried to use them.

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Originally posted by Rick Lee:
I kind of wish Trump would just come out and promise to federalize the VA Nat. Guard if Northam tries to activate them to enforce gun laws. That would make Northam totally impotent. He could rail against guns all he wanted, knowing the state and local police won't help him and he'd lose the Nat. Guard if he tried to use them.

No sense in telegraphing moves to the Leftists.

Let Gov Coonhound think he can do something, but always wonder if he can. Then, like here with Lobby Day, make him do something so you have it on the record before countering the punch.

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Originally posted by Rick Lee:
So the only way to really end this is to flip the legislature.

The other way is to flip the Democratic Party to be pro 2nd Amendment.

It doesn't take many votes to flip a primary and Virginia is an open primary state. If everyone who attended the rally today supported a primary candidate who was taking on a sponsor of one of the gun control bills we could flip enough of the incumbents that the remainders would be very cool to gun control.

It doesn't take much. All you have to do is volunteer to man a phone bank for several hours or spend a half a day canvassing potential voters. You could also spend part of a day at a poll handing out brochures for your candidate.

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Originally posted by preten2b:

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Originally posted by ASKSmith:

Stick, did you live in VA in the mid-90’s? VA started a crime prevention program called Projext Exile. Basically, if you used a firearm in the commission of a crime, it was an automatic 5yrs added to your sentence. Going off the top of my head, it dropped firearm related crimes about 33%. And now VA has become this...

I remember that as an NRA inspired program. It also mandated it be prosecuted on Fed side (stiffer penalties??) in order to prevent revolving door.

That's a good law, too bad the prosecutors' plea bargain out the gun charges and the judges don't say squat. So another Gun law that's never enforced or selectivly enforced.
The door continues to revolve.