Ok, not really interested in his story. Was asking about this situation

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
So the guy was shot in the chest with a 5.56?

Probably some of the bullet, slowed down a bit after hitting both the glass and the officer.

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Originally posted by Skull Leader:
Am I understanding this correctly? The rifle was stowed in the cage? Who's brilliant idea was that?

Also, one might wonder just who put the "cuffs" on her so loosely that she could slip out of them! Were I the law enforcement executive there, whoever did that would find him/herself wandering down the road wondering what had happened.

A pal sent me this clip from Reno 911:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYVnbJ4Wox0

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Originally posted by RogueJSK:

The news report states that it was stowed in the front center console. Which she was reportedly somehow able to access from the rear cage.

I'd be interested to learn the cage and rifle storage configuration.

From what I recall reading, she got out of the handcuffs and was able to slide open the window partition between the front and back seat. Then there was a switch on the console in the front between the driver and passenger seat and it was labeled “gun.” She flipped the switch and it unlocked the AR-15 and she was able to pull the gun into the back seat and use it.

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Originally posted by Elk Hunter:

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Originally posted by Skull Leader:
Am I understanding this correctly? The rifle was stowed in the cage? Who's brilliant idea was that?

Also, one might wonder just who put the "cuffs" on her so loosely that she could slip out of them! Were I the law enforcement executive there, whoever did that would find him/herself wandering down the road wondering what had happened.

Yeah the Sheriff said the cuffs were applied properly. He has no way to know that unless the arresting officer’s body cam perfectly picked up video of him applying the cuffs and doing a finger check to check the gap.

A few times over the last 15 years I've run across petite females who simply could not be properly secured in standard cuffs. It isn't common, but I've seen it.

What is a more interesting question to me, though, is exactly how the weapon was stored and how she managed to get it.

If it is a sliding partition as mentioned above, those do seem a liability... I've never seen anything but either mesh metal barriers or solid lexan type barriers. Nothing with a sort of pass-through. Maybe it is regional. Also, in my experience the switches to unlock weapons are NOT labeled and are NOT in plain sight, but rather hidden out of casual view.

Something tells me there are some policy and procedure changes coming in the very near future.

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Originally posted by thumperfbc:
A few times over the last 15 years I've run across petite females who simply could not be properly secured in standard cuffs.

Same here. They used to offer smaller diameter cuffs, specifically for petite females and juveniles, but I don't see them available for sale nowadays with a quick Google.

I carry Tuff-Tie nylon flex cuffs in my pocket. Useful in these non-standard cuffing situations, and also when you need leg restraints unexpectedly.

(Also handy for keeping a set of cuffs on you when off duty, since they're basically like extra tough shoelaces, and can be carried wadded up in your pocket.)

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If it is a sliding partition as mentioned above, those do seem a liability... I've never seen anything but either mesh metal barriers or solid lexan type barriers. Nothing with a sort of pass-through. Maybe it is regional. Also, in my experience the switches to unlock weapons are NOT labeled and are NOT in plain sight, but rather hidden out of casual view.

Yep. Open passthroughs are uncommon, for exactly these types of reasons.

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Originally posted by Rightwire:
Something tells me there are some policy and procedure changes coming in the very near future.

And equipment.

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Is that a personally owned carbine? Looks like it has a brace, not a stock. Why would a department issued weapon used a brace and not a stock when LE agencies don’t suffer the same NFA restrictions as the rest of us?

Yeah, it's a SB Tactical PDW arm brace. Most reasonable explanation is, like you suggested, it's a personally owned firearm.

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That civilian who got hit is going to be $50-100k richer by this time next year...