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When my daughter was considering joining the military, I had a recruiter unfortunately call my cell phone.

Told him today’s military no longer reflected the values I stood to defend when I served.

She will not be joining the Woked Services, move along and find a few liberal kids to populate the militant social experiment services.

Milley Vanilly is a pretend soldier and fake patriot.



“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”
Pres. Select, Joe Biden

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"We're the guys with the guns" said it all.


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No doubt these people would turn on citizens of this country if directed to and the proper label applied. They are no better than ANTIFA with a much better budget.
Given their success with overseas wars, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Just duck when one of these woke morons swings his purse at you.


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Originally posted by kimber1911:
When my daughter was considering joining the military, I had a recruiter unfortunately call my cell phone.

Told him today’s military no longer reflected the values I stood to defend when I served.

She will not be joining the Woked Services, move along and find a few liberal kids to populate the militant social experiment services.

Milley Vanilly is a pretend soldier and fake patriot.


I’m sorry but what?


That decision should be hers and not yours.

The military is still a great way to get a lot of good experience, a security clearance if needed, money for college etc.

Don’t ruin her future prospects just because YOU don’t like it.

Roll Eyes


 
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Don’t be silly.
The military is not the only path to success in life.
Today’s military leadership is vastly different than in times past.

Not discounting the sacrifice from those that are serving or those that have served, such as myself.

Just noting that the current focus of Military Leadership is not aimed at Defense of our Nation and Protection of our Freedoms granted within the U.S. Constitution by our Forefathers.

Perhaps someday this will change, but today the military is not the military of your fathers.



“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”
Pres. Select, Joe Biden

“Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021
 
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Pence national security advisor: Milley comments on imagined Trump plot 'seditious,' if true

If Joint Chiefs chairman's implied threat to intervene against Trump "with the guys with the guns" is accurately reported, then "he has violated his oath of office" and "he should go," said retired Lt. Gen. Keith Kellogg.

By Susan Katz Keating
Updated: July 19, 2021 - 11:10pm


If remarks attributed to Gen. Mark Milley are true, the four-star chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff committed sedition, according to retired Army Lt. Gen. Keith Kellogg, who served as national security advisor to Vice President Mike Pence during the Trump administration.

"I think he has violated his oath of office," Kellogg said of Milley. "I think he should go."

Kellogg made the observation while appearing on the John Solomon Reports podcast. A wartime infantry commander, Kellogg served in a number of key national security roles in the Trump White House, including chief of staff of the National Security Council.

Kellogg on the podcast elaborated on his Friday tweets about comments attributed to Milley in a newly released book, "I Alone Can Fix It," by Washington Post reporters Carol Leonnig and Philip Rucker.

The book reports that Milley feared Trump would attempt to stage a coup in order to remain in the White House past Jan. 20, when Joe Biden was inaugurated as president.

"They may try, but they're not going to f------ succeed," Milley told his deputies while discussing the possibility of a coup, according to the book. "You can't do this without the military. You can't do this without the CIA and the FBI. We're the guys with the guns."

If quoted accurately, the remarks violate the Uniform Code of Military Justice, Kellogg wrote Jan. 16 on Twitter.

"If true, Mark Milley’s comments are seditious," he wrote.

Kellogg elaborated on the tweets while being questioned on the podcast by Solomon.

"I really believe in civilian control of the military," Kellogg said. "I think it's essential. I think it's a bedrock of our Constitution and where we go, and my point was, if true, and what Mark said is true, then I think he violated his oath of office."

As chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Milley has no command role, and is not authorized to inject himself into the military chain of command, Kellogg said.

"There's a Uniform Code of Military Justice article, Article 94, which is actually mutiny and sedition. And look at that, and I said, you had violated your oath of office," Kellogg said.

The retired three-star Kellogg denounced the suggestion that Trump wanted to stage a coup.

"I was with the President on sixth January," Kellogg said. "I was with the president for 1,461 days. He never did anything that I thought was egregious enough that even came close to supporting what Mark Milley said."

Because of that and other comments about Trump's supporters, Kellogg said, Milley should leave office.

Kellogg's entire range of comments about Milley and other issues can be heard on the July 20 podcast.


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Milley Vanilly is a pretend soldier and fake patriot.

Yep.

My nephew graduated from West Point on Saturday. I was there. It was a great day and the focus was properly on the Class of 2022.

As I was in attendance and heard it live, I'm trying to pick apart Gen. Mark Milley's speech a bit. Something about it kind of bothered me. It's not so much what he says, but whether he meant it. Does it square with his actions?

Gen. Milley:

The U.S. military must change its methods of thinking, training and fighting, he added. Joint war-fighting concepts under development will help guide the military as a roadmap to the future, he said, adding the military must chart that course very quickly.

And we must develop leaders who have incredible character under the intense pressure of ground combat, and there is nothing greater than ground combat leaders who will make the right moral and ethical choices, along with the right tactical choice in the most emotionally charged environment you will ever face, he told the graduates, adding, "Each of you are those leaders."

"You are our most valuable asset"

around the 16 minute mark:

"Independence of action comes naturally to all Americans. Self-starting initiative. Non linear, critical thinking. And an aggressive will to win. All hard wired in our National DNA to overcome all obstacles.

In the absence of supervision, the willingness to disobey specific orders to achieve the intended purpose, the willingness to take risk to meet the intent, the acceptance of failure in practice in order to learn from our experimentation. These are all the qualities that you will have to demonstrate. And finally, there is character. On a non-contiguous, non-linear battlefield with very little higher command supervision and maximum decentralization, we must, we have to develop leaders who have incredible character under intense pressure.

Leaders who will make the right moral and ethical choice. "

You can watch the 25 minute speech here:

https://www.defense.gov/News/N...ilitary-milley-says/

Questions:

Does Gen. Milley not realize that those with religious or medical reasons not to take the experimental injection do show incredible character under intense pressure?
If Gen. Milley values Non linear, critical thinking, why does he want to throw the critical thinkers out of the military?
If "You are our most valuable asset", why does Gen. Milley want to kick so many of you to the curb for following your conscience?

What is the intended purpose of the "vaccine"? Isn't it supposed to be to protect and promote "military readiness"?
Then why does the DoD alter or cover up the DMED data? The DMED data shows vast numbers of adverse events happening to young people who are generally not at much risk from the virus. It's well past time to recognize that the "vaccine" is neither safe nor effective and causes more harm than benefits to "military readiness". Strokes and heart conditions do not benefit "military readiness". If our young soldiers contract covid they are likely to quickly recover. If they have any number of adverse events following the vaccine they may never recover. The cost/benefit analysis is clearly not in favor of mandates.

When Gen. Milley speaks of the acceptance of failure in practice in order to learn from our experimentation is he even understanding that the mandating the use of experimental mRNA vaccines is the greatest experiment in the history of the US military? And is he ready to accept that it has been a failure? That includes the anthrax shot between 1998 and 2000 which was also a huge failure. Will the military ever learn anything from these failures?

Milley is a political general. He was promoted above the best war fighting generals this country has produced. He chose a political cabal to latch onto to achieve his personal goals, and he is going to follow their every command, lawful or unlawful. His primary concern has always been fame, fortune, glory, and power without personal sacrifice. This is pretty obvious for those who have served, pay attention to his actions, and met officers like him. If we go to war, he will be the general that will push us there. He will neither be the one who will lead us toward victory, nor will he be the one who will help diffuse the conflict before it starts. He is part of the problem.

Finally, here's some good news:

In rebuke to Pentagon, Navy board finds 3-0 for vax objector amid questions of mandate's lawfulness
https://justthenews.com/politi...nt-commit-misconduct



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Finally, here's some good news:

In rebuke to Pentagon, Navy board finds 3-0 for vax objector amid questions of mandate's lawfulness
https://justthenews.com/politi...nt-commit-misconduct


Wow. Kudos to that officer and the Navy board. Reminds me of the joke about who's got the biggest balls among the military services.



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