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Temple Grandin: “the autistic brain “

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February 02, 2022, 04:09 PM
SIGnified
Temple Grandin: “the autistic brain “
Hopefully you already know who Temple Grandin is, but if not there is a wonderful Hollywood movie made about her. It’s a true story about an autistic woman who changed cattle feedlot management and slaughter.

It’s also the story of insight, brilliance and an unwasted life despite every excuse.


I’m posting this other bit below - even though it’s an hour and three minutes long.

It is so straightforward and sensible that I thought y’all would really enjoy. Many of you may resonate. I certainly do.





https://youtu.be/MWePrOuSeSY





"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty."
~Robert A. Heinlein
February 02, 2022, 04:20 PM
AKSuperDually
Great video.

I was introduced to her (virtually) by way of the movie with Claire Daines. I've seen several videos of Ms. Grandin since, and she's fascinating to listen to. A truly brilliant mind.


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February 02, 2022, 04:52 PM
DoubleAdobe
Temple Grandin is very inspiring.
I met her through my job many years ago, wow, I wish I had a video of that presentation.
I knew her uncle, he was a vet specializing in cattle and horses many years ago in Springerville AZ His name was George Grandin, a great guy.
February 02, 2022, 05:43 PM
TMats
Very familiar with her because of my career in grazing management, and made a point of watching the movie. She’s an AnimalSci professor at CSU, unless she’s retired since the last time I looked her up.


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despite them
February 02, 2022, 08:34 PM
41
Not to take anything away from her work, but grazing management was started by Rodale back in the early 80's which is now Rodale Institute:

https://rodaleinstitute.org/wh...organic-agriculture/

At that time, they published "New Farm" magazine.


41
February 02, 2022, 08:50 PM
TMats
quote:
Originally posted by 41:
Not to take anything away from her work, but grazing management was started by Rodale back in the early 80's which is now Rodale Institute:

https://rodaleinstitute.org/wh...organic-agriculture/

At that time, they published "New Farm" magazine.

Wait!

What?!?

That’s just silly.


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despite them
February 02, 2022, 08:59 PM
41
quote:
Originally posted by TMats:
quote:
Originally posted by 41:
Not to take anything away from her work, but grazing management was started by Rodale back in the early 80's which is now Rodale Institute:

https://rodaleinstitute.org/wh...organic-agriculture/

At that time, they published "New Farm" magazine.

Wait!

What?!?

That’s just silly.


Rodale has been around before her as far back as the 50's and started organic farming.


41
February 02, 2022, 09:26 PM
charlie12
I saw the movie long time ago it was great


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And no, junior not being able to hold still for 5 seconds is not a disability.



February 02, 2022, 09:58 PM
bald1
Rodale.... he created Prevention magazine. No clue about New Farm.



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February 02, 2022, 10:19 PM
41
quote:
Originally posted by bald1:
Rodale.... he created Prevention magazine. No clue about New Farm.


The Organic Gardening magazine also was another of their publications. New Farm was only published maybe 8 or 10 years in the 80's. I assume there was not enough interest.

I did find an online New Farm magazine by the Organic Farmers Association:

https://issuu.com/organicfarme.../docs/nf-2020-final2


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February 03, 2022, 01:01 AM
Silent
Thanks for posting this. Very interesting and important.

Silent
February 03, 2022, 04:04 AM
OttoSig
It irritates me when they talk about the “Spectrum” as if only those with “symptoms or signs” are on it, we’re all on it, that’s why it’s called a spectrum.





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February 03, 2022, 08:48 AM
TMats
quote:
Originally posted by 41:
quote:
Originally posted by TMats:
quote:
Originally posted by 41:
Not to take anything away from her work, but grazing management was started by Rodale back in the early 80's which is now Rodale Institute:

https://rodaleinstitute.org/wh...organic-agriculture/

At that time, they published "New Farm" magazine.

Wait!

What?!?

That’s just silly.


Rodale has been around before her as far back as the 50's and started organic farming.

Dr. Grandin is one of the pioneers of low-stress livestock handling; remember she’s a professor of Animal Sciences, not Rangeland Management.

The Society for Range Management is the international professional society that I was a member of throughout my career; it was established in 1948. There have been many different grazing systems developed over the years. The appropriate system is dependent upon many factors, among them: climate (Zimbabwe or Montana), land ownership (private or public land), resources (both natural and financial), access to water, topography, etc. etc.

No one person “started grazing management.” I never heard of Jerome Rodale in college studying Rangeland Management, from seminars at annual SRM meetings, or in technical papers circulated within the Range program of the Forest Service. As near as I can tell from my research, Rodale was born in Manhattan and developed an interest in organic farming for personal health reasons. I can find no evidence of formal education in any science.

I saw and heard Temple Grandin speak at a seminar once. Captivating.

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despite them
February 03, 2022, 09:46 AM
41
Your exposure was all well and good.

But Rodale served the public with his publications of Organic Gardening and New Farm Magazines which reached a lot of people compared to the Society for Range Management. My farmer friends used Rodale's grazing management in the use of paddocks to increase production. At a later date, they even added sheep to further increase production of the land.

I traveled a lot in my job and been in every state except Wyoming. I always visited the gun shops and stores that specialized in books and magazines. One of the largest book/magazine stores was in Marquette, MI and it was huge. I always wondered how such a large store could be supported by the local population. I have since forgotten the name of the store.


41
February 03, 2022, 10:06 AM
TMats
41, suggest you do a little reading on André Voisin and Allan Savory. Response triggered by your used of the word “paddocks.” Look, I’ve been accused before of coming off like a FKIA, but this really was my life’s work, and I’ve worked from Arizona to Wyoming and points in-between. Rodale has obviously influenced your life. I know only what I read this morning. Suffice to say, he’s had no discernible impact on my education or career. Temple Grandin has

I’ll apologize to SIGnified for this departure of his thread about Temple Grandin, it bothers me when people take a thread I posted off in another direction. The HBO movie Temple Grandin, with Claire Danes in the title role is available to rent on Prime for $3.99. If you are an HBO subscriber, I assume you can watch it any time you like.


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despite them
February 03, 2022, 10:34 AM
SIGnified
Thank you for your concern Tmats. We are all good.

41, you are near-totally off-topic, but I suppose that’s OK. Just wondered if you knew it?

The topic is Dr. Temple Grandin and “the autistic mind”. TMats is correct about her areas of discipline. (I know CSU well. Even the vet school and the equine center.)





"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty."
~Robert A. Heinlein
February 03, 2022, 10:52 AM
41
I agree we got side tracked.

Dr. Amen noted in one of his books that autism was caused by low levels of vitamin D3. I have to think other factors are involved. My cousin use to teach autism kids and one family had three kids with autism.

Several years ago, she went to one of the Autism Clinics held by VA Tech:

https://www.vtcar.science.vt.edu/


41
February 03, 2022, 05:32 PM
SIGnified
^^^ did you get to watch the video? ^^^

She has a lot of brain scans of her own head compared to “normal“. Interesting stuff on the connective wiring between the various parts of the brain.


Looks Highly genetic (DNA) to me vs. some nutritional constraints. Ymmv





"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty."
~Robert A. Heinlein
February 03, 2022, 07:25 PM
41
Brain scans are interesting and you have probably seen some of Dr. Amen's work on PBS involving brain scans.

I agree that it leans toward genetic versus food deficiency. My cousin also noted that some of the kids were very smart for their age. They ranged in age from 5 to 17 with one teacher per kid on average.


41
February 25, 2022, 01:42 AM
Hey Pal
So, my brother-in-law wrote the movie.