I think they should apologize to us for not apologizing for apologizing.

"I'm sorry I didn't say I'm sorry for saying I'm sorry."

OK, that covers it.

I can't remember did Rutgers release an apology for saying Black Lives Matter and correct it to say All Lives Matter?

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
This country is currently plagued with both mental illness and unsurpassed cowardice. Anyone with this level of cowardice has no business in charge of anything. Yet another example why a college education is slightly less than worthless today.

We are on cruise control for a hurting when the next conflict arises.

It's not even an education as much as it's indoctrination now.

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Originally posted by V-Tail:
I guess I was kind of lucky that I could not afford to go to college as a full-time student. My father died when I was very young; he left me enough to barely pay for my first year.

After that, I worked full time and took evening classes. Took a while to earn the BS degree, but the bright side of that coin was that everybody taking evening classes was there to actually learn, not to socialize, not to party, not to screw around.

I probably got a better quality education by doing it the way that I did.

I went to college of U of IL Urbana full time 1990-1994 and majored in Engineering. All of my classes were technical except a freshman year rhetoric class in technical writing, and 18 hours of social science and humanities. I remember in a philosophy of religions class that I took pass/fail the female professor was enamored of Islam and it's "peacefulness" which I kind of rolled my eyes at. Other than that, I didn't see much bias.

A 300 level economics professor showed us with math and graphs why welfare is a disincentive to work, and an Ethics philosophy professor discussed the legal and moral issues around whether or not a fetus's right to life trumps a woman's right to deny the use of her body to sustain the life of the fetus. Mostly we were free to argue whichever point of view we wanted as long as we used sound reasoning.

Of course there was a subset of students that were too busy protesting the poor retention rate of minorities (read: they tended to flunk out more often) to spend much time studying or going to free tutoring, thus perpetuating the retention problem. And then there were the ones that wanted to ban Chief Illiniwek, but they were mostly black and hispanic and actual native Americans had no issue with the Chief and actually liked that their traditions were being kept alive respectfully.

I will say that Engineering students tended to be more conservative, as was the fraternity I belonged to and the Greek system in general. Notice many universities are trying to get rid of their Greek systems. This is more about political ideology than anything else.

I'm sure things have changed. An ex-Marine cousin by marriage got sorta brainwashed about "sustainable" this and that and climate change when he majored in architecture at Ball State in the early 2000's. Haven't seen him since I got divorced to I'm not sure if he recovered from that. I think the issue is the explosion of "studies" programs that present far left lunacy that is not backed by facts as "truth", and in general the liberal arts side of things, along with the endless proliferation of administrators in charge of diversity and inclusion.