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Has anyone tried this or use them? What I really need is to see a focused front sight and not walk into a tree if I try to focus farther out.

In a dry fire environment with my normal specs it seems to work just fine, little tiny, sharp edged post up front instead of an amorphous blob and sad results down range.

Any help would be appreciated.


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My opinion and set up works. It was suggested to me by a great instructor, Bill Rogers.

My right eye lens is set to a focal length of the front sight. My left eye lens is set to a focal length for distance. Thus when shooting with both eyes open - the brain will "meld" the images together. It works, I swear it does.

You need to have an optometrist or ophthalmologist who can understand what you are trying to do. Mine asks me to bring my gear with me for my yearly checkups. And once we both verify the pistol is clear, he checks his planned prescription while I'm sighting the gun.

I have found that I need about 30 min or so for my eyes/brain to adjust to my "shooting glasses". So I put them on a bit before starting.

Hope this helps.
Andew



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that's not a solution I thought of, so with both eyes open you have a sharp picture of the front blade?


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It really depends on which shooting discipline. I'm guessing pistols since you said dry fire.

When I first got bifocals, I got my shooting/safety/sun glasses as bifocals.

It was great shooting:
  • pistols standing still
  • rifles from a bench

    It was horrible:
  • shooting sporting clays. Damn clay kept going between my distance and my near portion of my glasses.

    It was merely OK:
  • shooting rifles and pistols on the move. I had to keep my head angled down a little which was unnatural.

    I very rarely need to read when I'm wearing them and my near vision correction is very minor (unlike my distance correction). I ended up having the optometrist order a pair of distance only lenses and having them installed in my shooting/safety/sun glasses. I'm much happier and plan to do the same when I need a new prescription.



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    Posts: 23383 | Location: Northern Suburbs of Houston | Registered: November 14, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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    I use bifocal safety glasses for shooting. The front sight is not sharp, but the target is clear.
     
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    Originally posted by El Cid 92:
    My opinion and set up works. It was suggested to me by a great instructor, Bill Rogers.

    My right eye lens is set to a focal length of the front sight. My left eye lens is set to a focal length for distance. Thus when shooting with both eyes open - the brain will "meld" the images together. It works, I swear it does.

    You need to have an optometrist or ophthalmologist who can understand what you are trying to do. Mine asks me to bring my gear with me for my yearly checkups. And once we both verify the pistol is clear, he checks his planned prescription while I'm sighting the gun.

    I have found that I need about 30 min or so for my eyes/brain to adjust to my "shooting glasses". So I put them on a bit before starting.

    Hope this helps.
    Andew


    Same, except mine are flipped as I am left eye dominant. Works great. Normally take them off and switch to my regular progressive sunglasses before leaving the range, but one day at Paducah I was on my way back after lunch before I realized I hadn’t changed before heading out.
     
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    I got my eye doc to make me a set of glasses(bifocals) like mechanics gleasses with the bifocal in the top of the lens...and it’s set for 26”(IIRC) the distance of my front sight for pistol...the lower lens is for distance so I can move about...I found I have a habit of tilting my face down when I sight in....and I couldn’t break it...



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    Posts: 11335 | Location: Temple, Texas! | Registered: October 07, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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    Thanks so far, I had no idea if it was even feasible.

    I am looking for improvement with a pistol. I am shooting more bullseye and less action but I do participate in the occasional action-type (unsanctioned by anybody) match. Rifle works fine for me with ordinary eye-pro. Everything has optics.

    Thanks for the direction here, I don't even know what I don't know about this topic.


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    Originally posted by El Cid 92:
    My opinion and set up works. It was suggested to me by a great instructor, Bill Rogers.

    My right eye lens is set to a focal length of the front sight. My left eye lens is set to a focal length for distance. Thus when shooting with both eyes open - the brain will "meld" the images together. It works, I swear it does.

    You need to have an optometrist or ophthalmologist who can understand what you are trying to do. Mine asks me to bring my gear with me for my yearly checkups. And once we both verify the pistol is clear, he checks his planned prescription while I'm sighting the gun.

    I have found that I need about 30 min or so for my eyes/brain to adjust to my "shooting glasses". So I put them on a bit before starting.

    Hope this helps.
    Andew


    This is a variant on "mono vision", something I have been using for around 35 years in my contact lenses to start with and then glasses when I spent too much time staring at computer monitors.

    It works perfectly and since my shooting glasses and my every day glasses have the same prescription, if I ever have to use my gun, there won't be a problem as I use the same prescription all day every day.
     
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    I brought a 'blue gun' to the glass store and had them mark the 'near' part of the lens correction done while looking at the front sight of my blue gun.

    I got a few strange looks but it worked out for handgun shooting, it wasn't much good for anything else though.


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    Originally posted by El Cid 92:
    My opinion and set up works. It was suggested to me by a great instructor, Bill Rogers.

    My right eye lens is set to a focal length of the front sight. My left eye lens is set to a focal length for distance. Thus when shooting with both eyes open - the brain will "meld" the images together. It works, I swear it does.

    You need to have an optometrist or ophthalmologist who can understand what you are trying to do. Mine asks me to bring my gear with me for my yearly checkups. And once we both verify the pistol is clear, he checks his planned prescription while I'm sighting the gun.

    I have found that I need about 30 min or so for my eyes/brain to adjust to my "shooting glasses". So I put them on a bit before starting.

    Hope this helps.
    Andew


    I did the same here ... however with contact lenses. Really worked well for me.
     
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    Pricey, but the best solution I have found is their "Almost" lens. It's for when you can "almost see the front sight".
    They place an upside down bifocal in the dominant eye lens. They have you measure the distance to your front sight and adjust the Rx to focus there.
    They also send a set of mock lenses in the frame plus a sticker. You place the sticker where you want the bifocal based on your head position when you are pointed in. Move the sticker around until it's right.
    My setup was about $500 before discounts and took about 4 weeks.

    Luck,

    Bruce






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    I too have custom glasses specifically for shooting that have prescriptions specific to what I wanted to accomplish. I can and do practice sometimes with my normal progressive lenses and without prescription lenses and can function just fine. I can’t read anything small print with my shooting glasses on however. One thing we will tweak on the next go around is correcting the astigmatism better for my RMRs on my dominant eye. My doc is cool about having me bring in my gear to get it all worked out.

    My doc did something similar as RNshooter’s system. It wasn’t cheap but I am extremely happy with the results.

    DK


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    El Cid said it very well. That’s what works for me. Put the glasses on about an hour before shooting. Once I wore them all afternoon and evening because I just got used to it.
     
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    This solution sounds workable but I'm going to check out Calcutrax from above also.

    This is very helpful for me, thanks. When I asked the question I had asked a couple of friends and didn't gt anywhere, so as usual, Sig Forum for all your needs.


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    My experience is the same as El Cid.

    With the possible exception that both my optometrist and optician were both intrigued and excited about the concept. YMMV



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    I used to pride myself on open site rifle marksmanship. Tossed it up to my should a few years ago and found out that's not going to work anymore. Tri focals will help me with pistol, but rifle I need to buy a scope.


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    I used to pride myself on open site rifle marksmanship. Tossed it up to my should a few years ago and found out that's not going to work anymore. Tri focals will help me with pistol, but rifle I need to buy a scope.


    scopes rock.besides that with a rifle you get to lay down a lot. Cool


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    I believe this company used to be a member her numerous years ago. I will caveat this with I have not used them but they do specialize in shooting eyewear.

    https://www.tacticalrx.com/

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    As others have already mentioned, my setup (bifocal shooting glasses) is the same — dominant eye top is set for mid-range (front sight distance) and non-dominant eye set for distance, both over reading strength (so I can read headstamps). I went into trifocals a few years ago and although I “can” shoot with them, it’s kind of a PITA to either try to get the front sight into the narrow mid-range zone, or use the distance zone and see a fuzzy front sight. Years ago I tried progressives and didn’t care for them.

    My local optometrist has a guy that has made these for numerous folks, including many LEOs. When you first put them on, it’s a little weird for a few minutes, but your brain adjusts pretty quickly. In my case, I feel it was worth the out-of-pocket expense. If I were a smarter man, I would’ve acted until the next calendar year so my vision insurance would have paid for them. Still and all, money well spent when I shoot.


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