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If the city is shut down, why are my taxes still high?
June 08, 2020, 11:53 AM
rburgIf the city is shut down, why are my taxes still high?
It comes to mind that city government only exists to perpetuate itself. They say they serve the people, but I find little evidence of that. All those employees (not workers)still on the payroll, but not working. They've installed a website to answer questions, but it doesn't. No phone numbers listed, because they're not working. I knew that back in the "good times". But for them, these are the good times. Pay and not having to show up. Kind of like my retirement. But I don't get full pay, and kid myself into thinking I worked for it. Well, I did go in every day.
The only ones that haven't gotten a break during this shutdown are the taxpayers. At least those that worked in private industry can get unemployment, plus the $600 a week bonus for being displaced. I wonder if the city "workers" get that too? No wonder they're so happy. This shit has gone on long enough.
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June 08, 2020, 11:54 AM
RHINOWSODidn't you hear,
"We are all in this TOGETHER". Just some pay more than others...

June 08, 2020, 12:04 PM
joel9507The wonder of 'civil' service. The pay is independent of any 'service' being provided.

June 08, 2020, 12:07 PM
BigSwedeI'd hit up the City Manager
June 08, 2020, 12:09 PM
Jimg1960Your lucky our county (about a month ago) sent out property tax increase letters. 25% increase on value...equates to around 10% in dollars. They send 2 mowers twice a year keeping the foliage down on non residential properties.
June 08, 2020, 12:21 PM
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ScoutmasterAs Orwell noted in Animal Farm, all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal.
Seems to me the top two spending categories in much of gov't spending is payroll/benefits for public employees; and "rob Peter to pay Paul", ie, spend public money on welfare to buy votes, (after they take the first cut of tax collections to pay themselves.

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rburgquote:
Originally posted by BigSwede:
I'd hit up the City Manager
I tried, but he's not in his office or answering the phone.
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June 08, 2020, 01:46 PM
flashguyThe government employees have to be paid, especially the ruling class.
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Texan by choice, not accident of birth June 08, 2020, 01:49 PM
parabellumWell, Dick, it's kinda complicated
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June 08, 2020, 02:30 PM
PrefontaineF'in county is trying to bang me out of even more money on property tax. The jumps over the last 5 years have been ridiculous. I'm about to file a protest as I have had it with these POS. They should have flatlined it this year. School is out for months. So while I could tolerate a flat line, an increase is an insult.
What am I doing? I'm talking to an empty telephone
June 08, 2020, 02:42 PM
rburgquote:
Originally posted by Prefontaine:
an increase is an insult.
You sure offend easily. Calm down, its for your own good!

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June 08, 2020, 02:48 PM
smschulzquote:
If the city is shut down, why are my taxes still high?
They need the money.

June 08, 2020, 02:49 PM
rscalzoSo many cities have bloated govt. with more divisions to control the volumes of ordinances, permits and other expenses.
In my former department the court has about nine employees. Part time Judge, Prosecutor and Public Defender.
Over the years, the new E tickets that are computer generated and e complaints did away for the need to manually enter the data into the system. Yet no reduction in staff.
They have a building department although 80 percent of the town is controlled by a state agency that approves plans. All full time with benefits.
The school system eats up a large portion of the taxes paid locally. Meanwhile NJ and US schools in general have become less successful. the govt. has made education a quest to pass a test and not learn.
June 08, 2020, 03:23 PM
apf383Well since schools have been closed for the last 3 months Im certain you will see a little something kicked back in your property taxes.

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June 08, 2020, 03:50 PM
.38supersigThink of the chiiiiiiiildren.
June 08, 2020, 06:32 PM
a1abdjquote:
our county (about a month ago) sent out property tax increase letters. 25% increase on value.
quote:
county is trying to bang me out of even more money on property tax.
They're just getting started. Wait to see what happens due to the decrease of sales taxes collected during this shutdown along with the increasing lack due to online sales.
June 08, 2020, 06:37 PM
280noslerquote:
Originally posted by a1abdj:
quote:
our county (about a month ago) sent out property tax increase letters. 25% increase on value.
quote:
county is trying to bang me out of even more money on property tax.
They're just getting started. Wait to see what happens due to the decrease of sales taxes collected during this shutdown along with the increasing lack due to online sales.
That means the people that can pay are dwindling, and means it is high time to escape from that municipality.
June 09, 2020, 09:56 AM
Prefontainequote:
Originally posted by rburg:
quote:
Originally posted by Prefontaine:
an increase is an insult.
You sure offend easily. Calm down, its for your own good!
No I don't. When your county does +40k, +50k, +20k, etc etc every year you get fed up quick. The county acts like your house is completely remodeled and spanked out a to z.
What am I doing? I'm talking to an empty telephone