I'll do it when Elisabeth Warren does it. I promise.

Jim

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My mom has recently become interested in genealogy ...

Old fashioned and low tech, but find a Mormon church and ask for help.

Submit my DNA so they sell it to the highest bidder....Nope. You gotta know that their is some evil bastage behind the DNA collection scam. I'm with the BOSS on this, nuttin good comin of this in the future...robots with your DNA....eliminate your white honky ass for having too much Jewish blood...or God forbid because your DNA leans to conservative causes...Nope, just no.

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Originally posted by Lord Vaalic:
I'm not as worried about the government getting the DNA as I am insurance companies. You know they will at some point start to salivate over all that DNA and disease rate info. And you have zero say in how that info is used, sold, etc.

Insuramce companies are already using the "breast cancer" gene to reduce ratings if they are in your medical records.

My kids were going to buy a test from 23 @ me for Fathers Day. They know my obsession with privacy so they came prepared. Ancestry.com apparantly requires your name, etc. Only way for them to track your ancestors.

23 & me is strictly anonymous. Have your results sent to a po box rented by your buddy from the bar, and no one will be able to track you. They may have your dna, but it is worthless without contact info.

I still didnt do it...

Now is not the time in my life when I need a paternity suit. Ill never take part in that, nothing to gain and way too much to loose.

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Originally posted by apf383:
Now is not the time in my life when I need a paternity suit.

Shit, I never thought about that. {peeks out through blinds}

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by apf383:
Now is not the time in my life when I need a paternity suit.

Shit, I never thought about that. {peeks out through blinds}

Not all of my boys are accounted for Para...

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Originally posted by ranger312:
They know my obsession with privacy so they came prepared.

If your's is anything like mine, it's about three levels below mine. Not a chance in hell I'd do it.

I am fascinated by history, and would love to be able know things that only DNA could show about my family, but no way no how would I give any of these companies my genes nowadays. It just ain't gonna happen unless and until there are iron-clad rules/laws protecting that information...which will never happen.

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Originally posted by Gustofer:

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Originally posted by ranger312:
They know my obsession with privacy so they came prepared.

If your's is anything like mine, it's about three levels below mine. Not a chance in hell I'd do it.

I am fascinated by history, and would love to be able know things that only DNA could show about my family, but no way no how would I give any of these companies my genes nowadays. It just ain't gonna happen unless and until there are iron-clad rules/laws protecting that information...which will never happen.

It really doesn't matter whether or not you send DNA samples to one of these companies. Every doctor is now getting DNA analyses of your blood to assist in prescribing medications for genetically-related ailments, and the potential for that information to be leaked is probably as good as from one of the genealogy sites. Not only that, if your brother or father has submitted DNA it's almost as good as if you did it--it's even more revealing if more than one sibling/parent has done so.

I believe it's a fool's errand to imply that this information will remain unknown.

flashguy

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Originally posted by flashguy:
Every doctor is now getting DNA analyses of your blood to assist in prescribing medications for genetically-related ailments...

No...they're not. But even if they were, I get around that by ordering my own routine labs.

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I believe it's a fool's errand to imply that this information will remain unknown.

In perpetuity? I think that you are correct. But I'll resist until I'm in the ground.

^^^^^^^^


Hmmmmm.....now you’ve got me thinking


I don’t think I’ve ever had a DNA analysis done from a blood draw at the clinic, but Cologuard does at least a partial.

How about that “nicotine cheek swab” they do for life insurance, or the blood for that?

Mine’s probably already out there.

Never would I give my DNA. One day it could come back to bite you in the ass. I know enough about my ancestry from asking questions to my parents and grandparents when they were around. I'm not worried that I have done something and they might find me, I'm worried that our government would miss use it.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
No, it's not harmless, and I will never volunteer my DNA to any of these places. None of us know what the future holds and how this data will be used.

In my opinion, it's foolishness to even consider it.

I am with Para on this one!

Always plan for a future wherein the gubmint oversteps its authority because the chances are very good you'll be correct.

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:

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EX: Billy has 25% Irish. Billy's brother has 33% Irish.

Easy to explain Billy looks like the postman.

Or, their analysis isn't very good to start with.

Nyet. No way I'll voluntarily give anyone my DNA for analysis.

Good timing for this article:


A number of major genomic testing companies have agreed to a new set of guidelines on the sharing of DNA with law enforcement and other third parties.

Under new rules set about by various companies including 23andMe, Ancestry, Habit, Helix, and MyHeritage, and published by The Future of Privacy Forum, such businesses must obtain separate consent from customers before sharing “individual-level information” with organizations such as law enforcement and research companies.

The guidelines, which seek to advance “responsible data practices in support of emerging technologies,” that involves the obtaining “express consent for the collection, analysis, sharing, or reporting of Genetic Data,” and providing “clear and complete information regarding the Company’s policies and procedures for the management of personal data.”

“Companies should provide a public report describing requests from law enforcement for Genetic Data,” the guidelines continue. “Such reports should be made on at least an annual basis.”

The question of DNA sharing came to a head in April after the arrest of 72-year-old Joseph DeAngelo, 72, who was charged with serial of murders that led to the name “Golden State Killer.” He was arrested after crime scene DNA matched that of a relative who previously sent his DNA to the analysis firm GEDmatch, raising privacy concerns about how such companies handle people’s personal data.

“I don’t think the average consumer has wrapped their head around the range of issues they should think about when they make a decision to share [DNA] data,” The Future of Privacy Forum CEO Jules Polonetsky told the Washington Post.

Meanwhile, Ancestry’s chief privacy officer, Eric Heath, told Gizmodo in a statement that “protecting customers’ privacy is the company’s “highest priority.”

“We understand the sensitive nature of the information our industry handles and our responsibility as stewards,” Heath said. “Ancestry looks forward to seeing these Best Practices broadly adopted across the industry.”


https://www.breitbart.com/tech...third-party-sharing/

I turn 65 in a couple months and for the past 6 months have been getting slammed with junk mail and calls - about Medicare plans, life insurance, long-term care insurance, annuities, financial management, etc.

I highly doubt that they all got my info from Ancestry and 23 & Me.

This is from January 2015:

Surprise! With $60 Million Genentech Deal, 23andMe Has A Business Plan

According to sources close to the deal, 23andMe is receiving an upfront payment from Genentech of $10 million, with further milestones of as much as $50 million. The deal is the first of ten 23andMe says it has signed with large pharmaceutical and biotech companies.

Such deals, which make use of the database created by customers who have bought 23andMe’s DNA test kits and donated their genetic and health data for research, could be a far more significant opportunity than 23andMe’s primary business of selling the DNA kits to consumers. Since it was founded in 2006, 23andMe has collected data from 800,000 customers and it sells its tests for $99 each. That means this single deal with one large drug company could generate almost as much revenue as doubling 23andMe’s customer base.
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Just heard today that GlaxcoSmithKline is going to throw a lot of $$$$ their way. Same deal, drug research.
I trust Big Pharma like I trust insurance companies.

And people PAID 23 & Me to run the test and made it available to be put out there! No freaking way.

Never in a million years. No way.