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In reality electronics on modern bikes makes them very manageable to ride even with the insane HP. Engine management control, dynamic traction control, launch and wheelie control just to name a few contributes to making modern super bikes controllable but that doesn't mean they can't get away from you which they can. | |||
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Gotta love that V4 sound! A friend of mine who also has an '07 VFR said, "These things sound like angry bears when they get revved up!" When that VTEC kicks in at around 6400 RPM, it's a whole new sound. God bless America. | |||
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The Twin Pulse firing order makes it sound more like the 1299 than an RSV4. Sat on one at the motorcycle show - riding position is extreme, with the pegs quite far back. Beautiful bike though, with outstanding fit & finish The reward for hard work, is more hard work arcwelder76, 2013 | |||
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In Aus, the RR can be found for ... AUD$87,000. 2008 Desmosedici RR 989 cc, 4 stroke 4 cyl, L-4 147.1 kW / 115.76 Nm 171 kg Ummm, wow. That's a lot of pacific burritos. We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." ~ Benjamin Franklin. "If anyone in this country doesn't minimise their tax, they want their head read, because as a government, you are not spending it that well, that we should be donating extra...: Kerry Packer SIGForum: the island of reality in an ocean of diarrhoea. | |||
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Conversion, please, to real money. tac | |||
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I lusted for a Dunstall Norton. No money and nobody stocking one were just two of the problems. $2000 if memory serves. A standard Norton was about $1350 I think. Hat is off to one who owned one of the coolest bikes ever. Would love to hear stories of buying and owning it and maybe some pics. | |||
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Tac, they are certainly on the expensive side. It looks like they range from $21-40k and the top tier “R” model hasn’t even been released yet. I was reading that Ducati spent more developing this bike than any other single product they have offered before. It was in R&D for something like 4 years. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance | |||
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Ordered and bought it through Lanphere's Motorcycles in Syracuse. I had bought a couple earlier snortin' Nortons from Dave. Added all sorts of chrome goodies ranging from an extended rear set peg plates, to finned rocker and points plate covers, to carb velocity stacks with domed screen covers, to braided lines, to reupholstering the seat with added padding. Added a dental mirror stuck in a clip on handle to be legal. Had the bike painted in gunmetal gray with black pin striping. For giggles entered it in a bike show in Syracuse's War Memorial and took a trophy. If memory serves I had somewhere between $2500 and $2750 total in it. Top end was in the mid 130s with the real "go" coming on once fully underway as the gearing was quite tall. I do recall it being a "special" configuration overall compared to "normal" export models (bigger carbs and hotter cam, etc. if memory serves*). It was simply a joy to ride. Very very few cafe racers around town. These were the days before Japanese crotch rockets. Wish I never sold it but such is life. Sadly all my pictures of it were lost during one of my military moves. This internet shot is pretty close to the "as delivered" look although the side didn't have the gaudy lettering shown here, the seat was more of a single with a small tool storage compartment on its rear, and the exhaust system was different: Addendum: * Did some research and yeah there was a Mk II High Performance version: Compression ratio was raised to 10:1, hotter camshaft, racing exhaust pipes, bigger carbs, inlet tracts and inlet valves to go to 137 MPH. Interesting side note: Paul Dunstall said Steve McQueen also bought a 750 Dunstall Norton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvVkMavjP68This message has been edited. Last edited by: bald1, Certifiable member of the gun toting, septuagenarian, bucket list workin', crazed retiree, bald is beautiful club! USN (RET), COTEP #192 | |||
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I am going to sell my Desmodedici soon as my health is failing but to add I grew up on the BSA,Nortons and Triumphs and still own a few and in their day we thought they handled well and stopped same however in the last decade we are told they did none of the above and it is a miracle not to be killed on some of the ones I have owned. Some of the new Ducatis like my 1199R but not my Desmosedici has traction control and throttle by wire and even though that in itself is not a get out of crash certainty all the new superbikes are safer all the way around and if anything the old super bikes of the day made me a better rider to be able to have still be alive at my old age. I have not ridden the last 3 years but presently if my health gets better I would hold out for the RR model R-V4 and it will likely be priced at over $80K.This message has been edited. Last edited by: desmosedeci, | |||
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desmosedeci, Interesting take that the "superbikes" of old like my Dunstall were more dangerous than the current crop of exotic uber powerful bikes. Been cruising YouTube watching racing videos of Norton Commandos and their variants. Most have onboard cameras and yes, the footage really brings back memories. Certifiable member of the gun toting, septuagenarian, bucket list workin', crazed retiree, bald is beautiful club! USN (RET), COTEP #192 | |||
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This is interesting. Check out how often the amber light towards the top left of the dash illuminates. The amber light flashing indicates traction control intervention. Link to original video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fih5se12B4w ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance | |||
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New TC, riders will be WOT mid corner and let the TC take care of everything. My brain can't get to that point where I'd just trust the electronics and whack the throttle wide open. The reward for hard work, is more hard work arcwelder76, 2013 | |||
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The TC usually has several settings mine has 8 so different degrees of traction control and you should test all the settings to see where you are most comfortable with then you can go WFO! | |||
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Keith Code’s school switched to BMW S1000RR’d a few years back. You’d think 200hp motorcycles for training was a bad idea, but he mentioned accidents were cut in 1/2 because of the electronics. Incredible The reward for hard work, is more hard work arcwelder76, 2013 | |||
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Beautiful motorcycle, sounds awesome. Brings back good memories of my '86 1000 Ninja and '88 FZR750RU. | |||
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I’m anxious to hear one in the wild. As far as motos go the Aprilia RSV4 is in my opinion one of the nastiest and meanest sounding sportbikes out there. With a race exhaust the RSV4 reminds me more of a V8 with a hot as hell cam at idle than it does a motorcycle engine. This Ducati V4 has a different firing order and I believe different rotation from the Ape. I hope it sounds as good. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance | |||
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Ducati finally pulled the wraps off the new “R” model Panigale V4. Link to article From the article: Engine 221 HP @ 15,250 RPM (16,500 RPM limiter) 81×48.4mm bore and stroke Titanium conrods (-100g each) New crank, 1.1kg lighter Forged pistons New camshaft Bigger inlet valves and ducts Bigger throttle boddies (+4mm) and dedicated trumpets New oil pump & lighter rotor Valve service @ 15,000 miles What’s really rude though is that if you whip the Euro4 compliant exhaust off, replace it with a full system and remove some road-going bits like mirrors and numberplate hangers, it’ll make 234 HP and weigh just 165KG. That’s 1.42hp per kg. Holy ****. 234 hp & 364 lbs with a full exhaust and tune is obscene. Bravo Ducati! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance | |||
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Throw on some decent headphones, and watch the first video in the OP. It will put a smile on your face!!! ----------------- I apologize now... | |||
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Ducati has to be happy today. In its debut WSBK (World Superbike) race at Phillip Island the new Ducati V4 Panigale R rocketship piloted by Alvaro Bautista took first place and finished nearly 15 seconds ahead of everyone else. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance | |||
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I didn't know the doping protocol was so strict in motorcycle racing. He's got his urine samples right there front and center. | |||
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