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Thanks to this thread I am now ready for my next 4 oil changes in my Honda CRV. Synthetic oil from Costco and a 5 pack of OEM filters from Amazon and I'm sitting at $25/per oil change. Also used $10 in Speed Perks rewards from Advance Auto,where I had been buying Mobil 1 ,to get the proper 65mm filter wrench and 2 rolls of shop towels for $3.12 out of pocket.


Happy to help.

Thx to all the folks who have commented I've learned a lot about the different oils, certifications and such. I'll now be more vigilant about what oils are appropriate and approved by the manufacturer for my vehicles. And I will also be purchasing supplies well in advance of when they might be needed.



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Went to the Nissan dealer today for my oil change . $54.53 for 6qts M1 and a Nissan filter . Tire rotation included . And they didn't try to upsell me on anything !
 
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Consider Rockauto.com for oil/air/fuel/cabin filters and oil. I just placed a order for my Duramax and prices appear very reasonable with $7 ground shipping.


Thanks for the suggestion. I just priced fuel filters for the Power Stroke. They have the best price for OEM I could find. 30 bucks cheaper than anywhere else I could find them.



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Consider Rockauto.com for oil/air/fuel/cabin filters and oil. I just placed a order for my Duramax and prices appear very reasonable with $7 ground shipping.


Thanks for the suggestion. I just priced fuel filters for the Power Stroke. They have the best price for OEM I could find. 30 bucks cheaper than anywhere else I could find them.


Awesome, I had the same experience with my Duramax needs. A buddy purchased a cabin filter for his truck locally and later found the same filter was $20 cheaper on Rockauto.


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9 times out of 10, rockauto has the best shipped prices. My most recent purchase was 4 KYB Monomax shocks for my F350 last week. The least expensive shipping option said I’d get them by Friday. The 2-day option said Thursday, so I chose the cheap option. They arrived on Thursday anyway. Amazon worries my a bit because of counterfeit parts, so rockauto and Walmart are my gotos.

The KYBs are replaced the Rancho RS9000XLs that where also purchased from rockauto 5 years and 100,000 miles ago. Rancho’s lifetime warranty requires contacting the seller, so I’ll see how that goes next week.

I keep a set of fuel, air, oil, and even a transmission filter on hand. I usually have enough oil for the next change, which I buy when I drop the used oil off. Because of this thread, I now have oil and filters for my next 4 changes. I’m probably going to buy a set of brake pads to have on hand as well. I’m changing the transmission filter and fluid today.

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To add a bit more to this thread,in the Spring I purchased this Quick-Jack to assist in my car maintenance. After initial set-up/assembly it has been great. Only takes a few minutes for me to roll it out, set it up under my car and lift. This BF price at HD is very,very good http://www.homedepot.com/p/QUI...s-5175339/314987536?



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To add a bit more to this thread,in the Spring I purchased this Quick-Jack to assist in my car maintenance. After initial set-up/assembly it has been great. Only takes a few minutes for me to roll it out, set it up under my car and lift. This BF price at HD is very,very good http://www.homedepot.com/p/QUI...s-5175339/314987536?


That looks really sweet. That would be really handy for sure. HD says unavailable in my area. I'll have to save up...



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To add a bit more to this thread,in the Spring I purchased this Quick-Jack to assist in my car maintenance. After initial set-up/assembly it has been great. Only takes a few minutes for me to roll it out, set it up under my car and lift. This BF price at HD is very,very good http://www.homedepot.com/p/QUI...s-5175339/314987536?


That looks really sweet. That would be really handy for sure. HD says unavailable in my area. I'll have to save up...
Costco carries QuickJack as well. I cheated a bit and got a 0% AmEx card with $200 cash back and lowered the price even further.



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Do NOT try to formulate your own engine oil! We do this every day, and the balance of components within the oil is critically important.

To qualify one engine oil for a standard, such as CK-4, the testing is MILLIONS of dollars. To meet an OEM specification is even more challenging. It can take two years for OEM suppliers and the OEM to fully evaluate the product. There are seasonal proving ground requirements and if you miss the cold winter or the hot summer, you wait until the next year.

I will see if I can find a list of qualified engine oils to the Ford specification.



https://www.fcsdchemicalsandlu...loilsWSSM2C171F1.pdf


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Do NOT try to formulate your own engine oil! We do this every day, and the balance of components within the oil is critically important.

To qualify one engine oil for a standard, such as CK-4, the testing is MILLIONS of dollars. To meet an OEM specification is even more challenging. It can take two years for OEM suppliers and the OEM to fully evaluate the product. There are seasonal proving ground requirements and if you miss the cold winter or the hot summer, you wait until the next year.

I will see if I can find a list of qualified engine oils to the Ford specification.



https://www.fcsdchemicalsandlu...loilsWSSM2C171F1.pdf


Yes, quite the list., thx. I've been watching a few more videos on motor oils in general. Different kinds of flow testing etc. it's amazing the many different kinds of additives in use now. Technology in this arena has really advanced.



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Question for 4MUL8R:

What happens if you mix identical brands and grades of oil, but different weights? For example, if you mix 50/50 Rotella T6 5w40 with Rotella T6 15w40, do you end up with an oil that is essentially T6 10w40, or are the base oils completely different? Does identical brand oil of different weight have different additives which will affect the other weight in an adverse way, such as cold weather thinners in the 15w40, that when they mix with 5w40, will end up thinning that too much, creating something that is unexpected?

I hope that question makes sense.



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Question for 4MUL8R:

What happens if you mix identical brands and grades of oil, but different weights? For example, if you mix 50/50 Rotella T6 5w40 with Rotella T6 15w40, do you end up with an oil that is essentially T6 10w40, or are the base oils completely different? Does identical brand oil of different weight have different additives which will affect the other weight in an adverse way, such as cold weather thinners in the 15w40, that when they mix with 5w40, will end up thinning that too much, creating something that is unexpected?

I hope that question makes sense.


Watch this vid. He kinda goes there.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=IKdhgKUZhPA&feature=share



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Normally the additive package is the same in a family of lubricants. The 15W40 and the 5W40 would likely have different base oils and pour point depressants.

For the 15W, it would not be necessary to have base oils with good low temperature flow. So, the cost of those base oils is likely less, and the formulation could be cheaper. For the 5W, the base oil, the thickener, and the pour point depressant would be optimized for the lower temperature flow requirement, while maintaining the 40 viscosity at the rated temperature. Shear stability would also be checked, and the amount of thickener and pour point depressant, as well as the chemical structure, would be carefully chosen.

Keep in mind that the 40 viscosity is a RANGE of viscosities. So, the 5W40 could be lower viscosity at operating temperature than the 15W40. The 40 is NOT a singular value.

If you mix, from the same manufacturer, I would not be concerned, particularly if the additive was the “same” as identified by the brand Rotella.


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Keep in mind that the 40 viscosity is a RANGE of viscosities. So, the 5W40 could be lower viscosity at operating temperature than the 15W40. The 40 is NOT a singular value.

This might explain my noticeable decrease in fuel economy. I switched from a 5w40 synthetic to 15w40 conventional. I’m down from 9-10mpg to 7-9mpg.
 
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Thanks. I mixed them on my last oil change because I couldn’t get enough of the same weight, and this thread got me worried.



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I have a newer Discovery with the turbo-diesel that I have taken to the dealership the past two years for service. Oil changes are nearly $400 before whatever specials/discounts I can find.

Looking into doing it myself, I found out that the engine has a factory oil extraction port, and that the dealer doesn't even get underneath to drain from the pan. The oil required is Castrol Edge Professional C1, 6 qts @ $16 ea. and a $7 Mann oil filter.

Add $100 for a Mity-Vac for a no mess, no fuss oil change and I'm still out the door for half what the dealer would charge. I can't believe I've been paying dealer labor rates for them to pump oil out from an extraction port. I'm ashamed of myself.
 
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Times like this make me glad that my little Civic only takes 4 quarts of 0W-20. I do get the NAPA Gold filter, though. Since I drive about 5,000 miles a month, I'm changing and rotating tires once a month or so.


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I'm thinking about going trucking again. The desk job is getting old, so I'm thinking of firing up the old 1998 Kenworth with a 2004 era C15 CAT. Changing the oil is 44qts and about $120 in filters, and it lasts about six weeks between changes. I'm not feeling too sorry for you guys who need only 6 qts. It also uses $25,000 in diesel fuel during that six weeks, so there's that. Trucking is getting expensive.



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https://windyridgefarm.us/SaeOil.pdf

Above is a general non-authoritative (meaning not SAE) piece on engine oil viscosity. You'll find many such articles online.


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I'll add this here too. The never mention the newer Ford requirements for the 6.7 PS diesel motors.

https://comparemotoroils.com/m...a-t6-vs-mobil-1-tdt/



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