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Will have “REAL ID” soon
August 31, 2018, 10:58 AM
ibandaWill have “REAL ID” soon
Oklahoma has not complied (one of those states that passed a law that they would not comply, although they reversed it a year ago). The current exemption expires in October. If the state does not get another exemption things could go haywire quickly. A whole lot of people would get a suprise if they could not board a domestic flight.
I have a few SIGs.
August 31, 2018, 01:58 PM
9mmepiphanyquote:
Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
Although a REAL ID isn’t currently required for domestic airline flights, I’m wondering if it has any current benefits. E.g., less hassle with airport security?
Not a travel benefit, but you'll need a Real ID to make a firearms purchase
No, Daoism isn't a religion
August 31, 2018, 03:42 PM
rtquigNew Jersey is one of the few states that still have not complied for the Real ID. I have a passport but who really wants to carry it for a domestic flight. Earlier in the year the airlines listed what can be accepted for ID. I had my DOD, so I used it at the first TSA checkpoint with no problems. Second point where they search you, they wanted more ID. I didn't argue but let them know according to their rules my DOD ID was sufficient. They don't seem to know their own rules. I just renewed my drivers license in July and NJ still hasn't submitted the information to get us the Real ID. From what I have read, October is the last extension for NJ.
Living the Dream
August 31, 2018, 03:50 PM
Fenrisquote:
Originally posted by MikeinNC:
I figure it’s a way to slowly filter out the illegals who have been given a DL over the last ten years..eventually the RealID will be required and they can’t get em.
I just checked the Virginia DMV website. The documents they say will be required don't sound that tough to either steal or forge.
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...must provide DMV with physical documentation of:
* Identity; (e.g. Unexpired U.S. passport or U.S. birth certificate)
* Legal Presence; (e.g. Unexpired U.S. passport or U.S. birth certificate)
* Social Security Number; and (e.g. Social Security card or payroll check stub)
* Residency (two proofs required). (e.g. utility bills or mortgage statements)
* Proof of any name changes (e.g. marriage certificates or divorce decrees)
God Bless and Protect our Beloved President, Donald John Trump. August 31, 2018, 04:07 PM
Balzé Halzéquote:
Originally posted by fpuhan:
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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
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Originally posted by Pale Horse:
Well the OP didn't seem sure so I felt like I would confirm it for him. What may seem obvious to people who travel by air a lot isn't always to those who don't.
Fair enough.
And to the OP in regards to this: "Although a REAL ID isn’t currently required for domestic airline flights, I’m wondering if it has any current benefits. E.g., less hassle with airport security?"
No. As Pale Horse said, it has absolutely no benefits as far as getting through security faster or with less hassle.
Not quite. Without one, you won't be getting through security.
Which wasn't at all the gist of the question. In any case, a passport card or passport will get you through security just the same; a "REAL ID" isn't required to fly (domestically). But again, your form of ID has nothing to do with how expedited your process is through security. And that includes your military ID, unless you supply your DOD number previously so your boarding pass says TSA Pre-Check on it.
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Originally posted by rtquig:
New Jersey is one of the few states that still have not complied for the Real ID. I have a passport but who really wants to carry it for a domestic flight.
Get a Passport Card. It'll "solve" your REAL ID problem for domestic travel whether NJ gets its act together or not.
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Earlier in the year the airlines listed what can be accepted for ID. I had my DOD, so I used it at the first TSA checkpoint with no problems. Second point where they search you, they wanted more ID.
I have no idea what you mean by second TSA checkpoint. Even when I've been picked for secondary or extra screening, I've never been asked for my ID again.
~Alan
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August 31, 2018, 04:16 PM
selogicI've never waited more than 30 minutes at the DMV . Some of these horror stories are hard to believe .
August 31, 2018, 05:11 PM
sig2392I waited about 90 min in line to renew my license, they would not take my social security card as it was laminated, even though they have had my SS number for 48 years.
My license says not for federal ID, I have a passport and a Global Entry Card (GOES) card so for now I don't care.
August 31, 2018, 06:22 PM
rtquigquote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
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Originally posted by fpuhan:
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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
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Originally posted by Pale Horse:
Well the OP didn't seem sure so I felt like I would confirm it for him. What may seem obvious to people who travel by air a lot isn't always to those who don't.
Fair enough.
And to the OP in regards to this: "Although a REAL ID isn’t currently required for domestic airline flights, I’m wondering if it has any current benefits. E.g., less hassle with airport security?"
No. As Pale Horse said, it has absolutely no benefits as far as getting through security faster or with less hassle.
Not quite. Without one, you won't be getting through security.
Which wasn't at all the gist of the question. In any case, a passport card or passport will get you through security just the same; a "REAL ID" isn't required to fly (domestically). But again, your form of ID has nothing to do with how expedited your process is through security. And that includes your military ID, unless you supply your DOD number previously so your boarding pass says TSA Pre-Check on it.
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Originally posted by rtquig:
New Jersey is one of the few states that still have not complied for the Real ID. I have a passport but who really wants to carry it for a domestic flight.
Get a Passport Card. It'll "solve" your REAL ID problem for domestic travel whether NJ gets its act together or not.
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Earlier in the year the airlines listed what can be accepted for ID. I had my DOD, so I used it at the first TSA checkpoint with no problems. Second point where they search you, they wanted more ID.
I have no idea what you mean by second TSA checkpoint. Even when I've been picked for secondary or extra screening, I've never been asked for my ID again.
When I checked in at Atlantic City airport, I first had to go through a TSA checkpoint that asked to see my ticket and ID. I was then funneled to where you take your shoes off and empty your pockets and go through the scanning machine. That was 2 TSA checkpoint.
This past Monday I passed thru Canadian Customs when I got off a ship that sailed from Alaska. Then at the airport in Vancouver I had to go through American Customs checkpoint where I had to have my passport scanned. This was after going through Canadian airport security. I had thought U.S. customs would be in the U.S., but when I landed in Newark, it was get off the plane and go to baggage claim.
Living the Dream
August 31, 2018, 06:27 PM
Balzé Halzéquote:
Originally posted by rtquig:
When I checked in at Atlantic City airport, I first had to go through a TSA checkpoint that asked to see my ticket and ID. I was then funneled to where you take your shoes off and empty your pockets and go through the scanning machine. That was 2 TSA checkpoint.
That's odd. Like I said. I've never been ID'd at the "2nd TSA checkpoint." It's been over ten years though since I've flown out of Atlantic City.
~Alan
Acta Non Verba
NRA Life Member (Patron)
God, Family, Guns, Country
Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan
September 01, 2018, 12:57 AM
rtquigquote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
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Originally posted by rtquig:
When I checked in at Atlantic City airport, I first had to go through a TSA checkpoint that asked to see my ticket and ID. I was then funneled to where you take your shoes off and empty your pockets and go through the scanning machine. That was 2 TSA checkpoint.
That's odd. Like I said. I've never been ID'd at the "2nd TSA checkpoint." It's been over ten years though since I've flown out of Atlantic City.
Atlantic City airport is now run by the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. I find it interesting why New York has something to do with an airport over 80 miles from it borders. Up to that time, the NJ State Police ran security.
Living the Dream
September 01, 2018, 09:50 AM
Pipe SmokerThe REAL ID card doesn’t have a chip (as most current credit cards do). That surprises me. Seems like an obvious thing to make them harder to counterfeit.
“And although the prospect of RFID chip-embedded cards had been tossed around, at least for now, that particular stipulation (fortunately) has yet to make it into actual law.”
www.google.com/amp/s/gizmodo.c...al-id-1505105796/amp
Serious about crackers. September 01, 2018, 06:53 PM
walker77quote:
Originally posted by ibanda:
Oklahoma has not complied (one of those states that passed a law that they would not comply, although they reversed it a year ago). The current exemption expires in October. If the state does not get another exemption things could go haywire quickly. A whole lot of people would get a suprise if they could not board a domestic flight.
Same with Missouri.
We have a trip planned a week after the exemption expires in October. We didnt want to take a chance on missing our flights so we renewed our passports.
September 01, 2018, 06:58 PM
.38supersigquote:
Originally posted by sig2392:
I waited about 90 min in line to renew my license, they would not take my social security card as it was laminated, even though they have had my SS number for 48 years.
My license says not for federal ID, I have a passport and a Global Entry Card (GOES) card so for now I don't care.
Some states will allow you to use a current carry permit (and no other documents are needed) to qualify for a REAL ID certification on renewal of your drivers license.
September 02, 2018, 08:34 AM
henryazquote:
Originally posted by .38supersig:
Some states will allow you to use a current carry permit (and no other documents are needed) to qualify for a REAL ID certification on renewal of your drivers license.
You have to have at least one picture ID with your name and address. AZ CCW permits do not have any picture. Some states may. You also have to prove US citizenship. Both AZ regular drivers licenses and CCW permits can be issued to legal resident aliens, so for RealID, we need to provide a passport or birth certificate.