Free speech? What about their behavior was free speech?

That wasn’t free speech. That was disruptive aggressive confrontation. It wasn’t intended to be engaging or constructive. It was purely belligerent and antagonistic.

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Originally posted by arcwelder76:

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Originally posted by Crom:
What is the actual legal recourse here ?
If someone is disrupting a meeting, it seems like they could legally be FORCIBLY removed.

If someone is banging a bell in my face, it would seem that I could legally "defend myself".
I am probably very lucky I haven't faced these situations. What is the legal recourse ?

I'd like to know this as well. Beyond fat lips, hair pulling, and taking their lunch money, what could the people at the meeting have done, lawfully.

What _should_ the police have done? It seems to me that the police brass, university admin, and probably town, are behind the cops not doing anything.

My opinion as well!

Any self respecting LEO would step in and put a stop to that crap! Any number of charges that might fit.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
Beatings all around for these morons. These people were never beaten as children or young adults, and as such, they know no boundaries. Having my ass handed to me a few times in my formative years taught me an important lesson about discretion, boundaries, and when to walk away and mind my own business.

Exactly. Piece of shit needs a painful reality check!

Stupid should hurt.....BADLY! I wonder if the College Republicans can file a restraining order on said ass-hat for future ummmmm, engagements? If said ass-hat does it again, file misdemeanor stalking charges against him. Unfortunately there's no law against being an asshole. If there were, a LOT of us might have a police record...

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Originally posted by Rustyblade:
As he is escorted to a open window...
a line from a Terminator movie:

I let him go.
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"He's in the car." --- Elliot Ness

What should have happened is the College Republican leaders hosting the meeting should have told the clown that he was welcome to stay and participate in the meeting but he had to be respectful of others and not disrupt the meeting. He should have been instructed that if he continued to disrupt security would be called and he would be removed. None of this happened presumably because there is no one that has "permission" to uphold the laws, rules and decorum, and this POS knows it and is exploiting the situation. These idiots have been allowed way too much free reign at the expense of everyone else. Uber-liberal Portland is becoming known for this crap but it's spreading across the country at a significant rate.

I have the same shirt as the kid in the front row.

Indoor cowbells activate my ptsd, straight to the red zone. Probably would a ruined my shirt and everything.

No beating need be applied. Simply have two or three meeting attendants physically pick up that loud mouth and escort him outside.

BTDT.

I think next time the Republicans have ear plugs and air horns. When the d bag wants to talk give it right back to him. What a POS.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by darthfuster:
I don't like beatings for speaking one's mind. I also see that using one's liberty to seize another's liberty is irresponsible use of liberty. Irresponsible use of liberty must be met with the removal of that liberty even if temporary. What the student did has to be met with the removal of his liberty until he can use it responsibly. Beating the pulp out him, while satisfying, can only become the loss of everyone's liberty by the same means.

Horse feathers! Ever get in someone's face in high school and call them something rather inappropriate only to have them open your bottom lip wide or completely impair your vision via a blow to the beak? That was free speech on your part, right? Yet they ended your free speech rights because you were behaving outside accepted social norms (i.e. being an asshole). And if you were like me, you took a life lesson from the experience that's served you well over the years.

Offering a beating to these children is not so much about ending their free speech rights as it is teaching life lessons they missed in their formative years thanks to the everyone gets a trophy crowd. Call it behavioral modification if you will, but this crowd needs to learn...and right now.

I think the bolded portion is my point. Except real life is not high school and in a civil society we look for other means to remove liberty being used irresponsibly. Sure, there may be times when a split lip is appropriate, but this is not it. Now, if I am being verbally assaulted by, say, ANTIFA and the cops are unwilling to remove their irresponsibly used freedom, them swing for the fences. As a rule though, we need to find other ways than brutalizing the opposition.

People's Democratic shit hole Republic of Portland Police are neutered by the Politicians running said shit hole.

It's pretty bad. Washington County Sheriff's department cancelled police cooperation/mutual support with Portland Police, because of legal risk to their Deputies for enforcing law in Portland. Basically, if a Deputy gets involved in a shooting incident, the full weight of Portland city legal resources will be faced by Deputies involved in an 'incident' within Portland borders.

There was also a while bunch of 'outrage' from some Portland politicos, when it was discovered that a Portland Police Lt. had text conversations with the Patriot Prayer group leader, during their legally sanctioned marches in said shit hole/ Well, his immediate superiors in Police department came to his immediate defense, indicating this was part of their outreach and in helping defuse potentially violent confrontation with leftwing counter protestor.

I think it all went away after a couple of days (at least out of front page news) when it was discovered that same officer also communicated with leader(s) of the left-wing protesters, also trying to defuse violent escalations that these commies were involved in as part of the counter protest.

If I were a police officer in Portland, I'd not even carry a gun. Just let the inmates run the shit hole at street level, while the idiot commie politicians run the government in to the ground at the same time.

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Washington County Sheriff's department cancelled police cooperation/mutual support with Portland Police

Which is interesting considering a small sliver of west Portland lies within Washington County.

https://www.kptv.com/news/wash...00-77729c9829e4.html