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Atorvistatin raised my blood sugar (type II diabetic). Doc switched me to Ezetimibe even tho my numbers were fine. I also take red yeast rice, Weider brand from costco.
 
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Pay to go to a cardiologist, then disregard their advice?
 
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Pay to go to a cardiologist, then disregard their advice?

Could they be the same doctors that told us we would die from covid without masks? That we needed to get the vaccine to stop the spread? Do you believe everything they tell you? I no longer have confidence that the medical community has my best interests in mind. Perhaps the OP has similar concerns, I have no idea.
 
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Could they be the same doctors that told us we would die from covid without masks?

My doctor told me no such thing.

As I noted on page 1, if you have faith in your doctor take his advice. If not, find a different doctor.

Life is hard for folks that lack the ability to accurately make such evaluations.



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I no longer have confidence that the medical community industry has my best interests in mind. Perhaps the OP has similar concerns, I have no idea.

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I've been on 80mg of Atorvastatin for 10 years with no side effects. Based on family history of issues I was always careful about my diet, was an avid runner with multiple marathons in my past, lipid tests were ok, always under 200, and thought I had beat the odds. When I turned 60 fatigue set in, running wasn't fun any more and I just assumed it was welcome to old age. After discussing my symptoms with my GP during a physical he suggested a stress test. That turned into an octuple bypass surgery. He explained I had inherited the gene that causes the lipoprotein(a) to accumulate in my arteries and my heart was totally clogged up. The layman's term is sticky cholesterol. My cardiologist said I really didn't have much of a choice on statins. I'm good on that front but now I've been diagnosed with Cardiac Amyloidosis. That's a whole different ballgame/treatment with medicines that are $750,000 a year. Needless to say I've surpassed all the insurance premiums I've paid in my lifetime, but I can still go on some shorter hikes in the national forest, mow my grass with a walk behind, cut and split wood for the stove, and have a pretty decent quality of life at 70.
 
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My Cardiologist retired last year so I have a new one. They have me on 40 mg of Rosuvastatin daily at night and 100 mg of CoQ10 ubiquinol daily in the morning. This is knocking the shit out of my bad cholesterol numbers. I inherited the cholesterol problems from my mom. Before the statin i had a big issue with calcium build up and my bad cholesterol numbers usually ran about 300
 
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I've been on atorvastatin for about 8 years. My muscle and joint pain and sleep disruption became serious, so I stopped 2 days ago.


When they first put me on statins i developed serious pains in my legs and knees so I stopped and the pain went away. After talking to a new family doctor he changed my statin and put me on Ubiquinol CoQ10 to counteract against the statin use. I haven't had a single issue with joint or knee pain since.
 
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years ago my doc put me on a low dose statin cause my levels were at the edge, and just over,
in the past 3 visits, (a year apart)

after 2 years, I was sore, like my belt was too tight or I had worked too hard, so I quit

started taking fish oil 2x's a day, and passed the next few blood tests,

did the intercardia health screen afterwards and passed whatever they measure for heart health and cholorestol

was scanned with and with out dye for stones and was told, granted from my kidneys down past my groin, that I was holey unremarkable, just a touch of calcium in one of the main arteries in my groin, nothing to concern myself with,



I attempt to eat right, do need to loose 20+ lbs, and still no statins,



I am sure they help some, but not me, the side affects sucked, but also those issues they are for are not something in my family



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Atorvistatin raised my blood sugar (type II diabetic). Doc switched me to Ezetimibe even tho my numbers were fine. I also take red yeast rice, Weider brand from costco.

That’s what I take, Weider brand from Costco. I also take the Kirkland brand (Costco) CoQ10 300mg.
My cholesterol numbers have never been really high, I’ve pretty much maintained okay numbers my whole life.

My last test:
Total cholesterol-146
Triglycerides-67
LDL Chol Calc-75
VLDL Chol Calc-13
A1C was 4.8

I won’t take a statin.


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If the OP trusted the advice of his doctor he would not have posted the question. My counter questions are how can you evaluate whose internet medical advice is actually sound? Will anyone with sufficient medical knowledge be willing to give advice based on a forum post? And would it be reasonable to expect anyone with the sufficient knowledge to be willing to share it for free? Would it be ethical for a health provider to to give any advice in a forum setting where others with different circumstances would likley try to apply it to themselves or worse others?
 
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Statin are benefit v. risk.

I've been on them for a while and I have faith in my doctor when he says my needs would benefit from their use. I'm regularly have lab draws and my sugar is fine, and I have no other indications suggesting statin derived problems.
 
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I choose to not take a statin. I take Bystolic.




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I took several statins and they all gave me muscle and joint aches.

I switched to Vytorin now generic Simbastatin that is two low dose statins together and my pain went away.

The name brand was expensive and I battled the insurance company for weeks before they would cover it.

It really lowered my numbers.

YMMV.
 
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Originally posted by jimmy123x:
Pay to go to a cardiologist, then disregard their advice?

Could they be the same doctors that told us we would die from covid without masks? That we needed to get the vaccine to stop the spread? Do you believe everything they tell you? I no longer have confidence that the medical community has my best interests in mind. Perhaps the OP has similar concerns, I have no idea.


The sad part is we know very little about our doctors views for the most part. I only trust my oncologist 100 percent and have seen him frequently since 2013 and he always makes me a part of the conversation with often asking me "what do you think?". I just saw him yesterday and he does not want me taking statins with my LDL at 44 considering the risks to my liver.

I learned a long time ago is with healthcare you need to be your own main advocate which sadly very few do and just believe their health is being managed in their best interest. My sister died of the same cancer I have at age 69 because no on ever gave her a CT Scan even though she was mysteriously losing blood and low in iron and saw numerous doctors about it over a few year period. She had moved to Las Vegas and though we were very close because I no longer saw her regularly I did not know how bad she had gotten until it was too late.

I was diagnosed first with carcinoid cancer in 2013. I went to different doctors who could not figure out what was wrong with me and chalked it up to IBS or such. I finally went to a bozo gastroenterologist. I told him I believed I had a partially blocked small intestine because I lost a lot of weight, was eating pretty much a liquid diet, had horrid abdominal pain, and told him I could see my small intestines pushing up against my abdomen like an alien parasite trying to get out periodically. He told me I probably just needed probiotics. Roll Eyes Finally I asked him for the love of God can you order a CT Scan for me. I mean I am the one who pays for it and has to get it. He finally relented and I had the CT Scan 3 days later on a Saturday and within an hour later I got a call from his partner saying I need to come to the hospital now because you have a blocked small intestine.

About 4 years back my previous primary doctor was hesitant to order a vitamin D test for me. WTF, I am the one that pays for it. He asked me how much I take and I told him 7000iu a day to which he said "that is WAY too much and yes we better test it to make sure not a toxic level" . I got me test results back and I was deficient in vitamin D at around 27 I believe it was. From there on I doubled the dose and my oncologist checks my level 3 times a year for me no questions asked. He actually asked if I wanted any other labs done. Smile

I understand however that being an MD these days is not an easy job and most, at least around here, work for big regional practices and are expected to see a lot of patients every day with alotted time per patient being about 10 minutes. With that kind of patient load it is not surprising that they may not be spending much time at all reviewing a patient's chart and coming up with an appropriate plan of action.
 
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Pay to go to a cardiologist, then disregard their advice?


If you’ve never gotten bad advice from a doctor before, you are lucky.
 
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Pay to go to a cardiologist, then disregard their advice?


If you’ve never gotten bad advice from a doctor before, you are lucky.


That's when I get a new DR.. Your doctor is the only one that knows your entire picture (unless you've lied about stuff alcohol use etc. etc.) and are the best ones to advise you. So why pay a professional if you think you know more than the professional???? Just go on the internet, ask straingers, and wing it instead!
 
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Pay to go to a cardiologist, then disregard their advice?

Could they be the same doctors that told us we would die from covid without masks? That we needed to get the vaccine to stop the spread? Do you believe everything they tell you? I no longer have confidence that the medical community has my best interests in mind. Perhaps the OP has similar concerns, I have no idea.


The sad part is we know very little about our doctors views for the most part. I only trust my oncologist 100 percent and have seen him frequently since 2013 and he always makes me a part of the conversation with often asking me "what do you think?". I just saw him yesterday and he does not want me taking statins with my LDL at 44 considering the risks to my liver.

I learned a long time ago is with healthcare you need to be your own main advocate which sadly very few do and just believe their health is being managed in their best interest. My sister died of the same cancer I have at age 69 because no on ever gave her a CT Scan even though she was mysteriously losing blood and low in iron and saw numerous doctors about it over a few year period. She had moved to Las Vegas and though we were very close because I no longer saw her regularly I did not know how bad she had gotten until it was too late.

I was diagnosed first with carcinoid cancer in 2013. I went to different doctors who could not figure out what was wrong with me and chalked it up to IBS or such. I finally went to a bozo gastroenterologist. I told him I believed I had a partially blocked small intestine because I lost a lot of weight, was eating pretty much a liquid diet, had horrid abdominal pain, and told him I could see my small intestines pushing up against my abdomen like an alien parasite trying to get out periodically. He told me I probably just needed probiotics. Roll Eyes Finally I asked him for the love of God can you order a CT Scan for me. I mean I am the one who pays for it and has to get it. He finally relented and I had the CT Scan 3 days later on a Saturday and within an hour later I got a call from his partner saying I need to come to the hospital now because you have a blocked small intestine.

About 4 years back my previous primary doctor was hesitant to order a vitamin D test for me. WTF, I am the one that pays for it. He asked me how much I take and I told him 7000iu a day to which he said "that is WAY too much and yes we better test it to make sure not a toxic level" . I got me test results back and I was deficient in vitamin D at around 27 I believe it was. From there on I doubled the dose and my oncologist checks my level 3 times a year for me no questions asked. He actually asked if I wanted any other labs done. Smile

I understand however that being an MD these days is not an easy job and most, at least around here, work for big regional practices and are expected to see a lot of patients every day with alotted time per patient being about 10 minutes. With that kind of patient load it is not surprising that they may not be spending much time at all reviewing a patient's chart and coming up with an appropriate plan of action.


the primary care guy I had for maybe 15 yrs was always late, he in a medium sized practice, and was never on time for an appt,

but, he had a legit reason, he did a lot of Elder care, meaning his patients were old, at the time 20+ yrs older than me, and he would walk into an exam, expecting grampa and maybe one other, and have the entire family asking multiple repeating questions,


sadly, he developed a dependance problem, and went private, as in pay a premium for his cell number etc, so I dropped him,



which reminds me I need a new pcp



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