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Is insomnia part of the aging process?

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October 23, 2019, 02:22 AM
Sportshooter
Is insomnia part of the aging process?
It’s 2:20 AM and I’m as wide awake as a hoot owl. In my younger days, I could drop off to sleep in seconds and sleep through a train wreck. Do you sleep faster when you get older?
If I had headlights on the mower and my neighbors wouldn’t think I was crazy, it might be a nice pleasant time to mow the yard.
October 23, 2019, 02:48 AM
kkina
Yep, the older you get, the more likely you are to suffer from insomnia. It's not even 1 am where I am; I probably won't nod off for several hours.



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October 23, 2019, 03:08 AM
45 Cal
A sleep aid works somewhat.The not sleeping thing started when I retired years back
October 23, 2019, 03:34 AM
bald1
Wish it were that simple as I've suffered from insomnia since my teens and am now in my 70s. Yeah I'm up now too at 2:30am. Frown



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October 23, 2019, 03:45 AM
f2
I don't know about insomnia, but in Dr. Walker's book, Why We Sleep, you learn that as we age our REM sleep gets shorter - which is crucial factor in brain maintenance, getting rid of amyloid plaques, etc.

A couple of great sleep resources.

Why We Sleep

Dr. Matthew Walker on Sleep for Enhancing Learning, Creativity, Immunity, and Glymphatic System
October 23, 2019, 03:51 AM
Todd Huffman
Went to bed at 1230, wide awake at 0230. Tossed and turned till 0400 then got on up and took a shower. Gonna be a long day.




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October 23, 2019, 04:07 AM
Sportshooter
Still wide awake at 4:04 AM and just noticed that about 60 other people are not snoozing too!

Well, back to reading my latest book. Sleep tight y’all.
October 23, 2019, 07:14 AM
sigfreund
Insomnia is commonly reported by older people, but many people get far less physical exercise as they age, and I believe that may have a bearing on the problem. And by physical exercise, I don’t mean running a marathon or the BUD/S obstacle course, but even the activity associated with going to work at an office job is more than many retired people get.

I am 73 years old and get two basic types of exercise on a regular basis, dedicated swims or walks, and the activities associated with conducting outdoors firearms training and qualification sessions. During the past week I spent two to three hours on several days doing the latter in cold weather, and slept the night straight through after going to bed early following each session.

When I can’t sleep, it is typically after spending the day doing nothing but puttering around the house, and that is unusual.




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October 23, 2019, 07:16 AM
V-Tail
I wake up once or twice during the first half of the night. Get up to pee, then sometimes I am able to go right back to sleep, other times I am wide awake and read for a while.

Second half of the night I usually sleep pretty soundly.

I NEVER have any problem dozing off if I have the opportunity for a nap during the day.



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October 23, 2019, 07:19 AM
sigfreund
quote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
I NEVER have any problem dozing off if I have the opportunity for a nap during the day.


It seems counterintuitive, but studies have shown that taking a short nap during the day can help with sleep at night. For me, “short” means up to an hour.




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October 23, 2019, 07:29 AM
NK402
I know I shouldn't drink liquid after dinner but usually have a diet coke or tea. I suppose that explains why someone with no prostate gets up 2 or more times during the night to pee. When I find myself unable to go back to sleep, I head for the recliner in the living room. That usually does the trick. If not, I turn the TV on at a low volume. The drone and the flickering light in a dark room plus recliner usually work.
October 23, 2019, 07:34 AM
armored
I always found the vibration and steady noise of a truck diesel to be soothing and bring on sleep,
Great for sleep, BAD for driving.
October 23, 2019, 07:44 AM
Jim Shugart




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October 23, 2019, 07:51 AM
Sunset_Va
Another issue with sleep/aging, is no matter how much you sleep, it doesn't restore you as when you are younger.

Waking up still feeling tired is what I mean.


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October 23, 2019, 07:54 AM
Angus the Kid
I hear ya.

I have no trouble falling asleep. I wake up every morning between 2 and 4 and that's when the trouble starts.

I usually fall back asleep 15 minutes before my alarm goes off.



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October 23, 2019, 07:54 AM
kkina
Still awake.



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October 23, 2019, 08:35 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Sunset_Va:
Another issue with sleep/aging, is no matter how much you sleep, it doesn't restore you as when you are younger.

Waking up still feeling tired is what I mean.


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October 23, 2019, 08:41 AM
ensigmatic
quote:
Originally posted by sigfreund:
Insomnia is commonly reported by older people, but many people get far less physical exercise as they age, and I believe that may have a bearing on the problem.

I believe you're correct. I know I usually sleep more soundly after an active day than a more sedentary one.

That being said: I've found melatonin and CBD oil (zero THC) work well for me. I still usually wake up once or twice during the night, but I can get up, hit the head, go back to bed and go right back to sleep.



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October 23, 2019, 09:58 AM
gearhounds
I seem to be the opposite. I’ve found that as I get older, I sleep more soundly, although the number of hours is roughly the same. I work out fairly hard 4-5 days a week, so I’m sure that plays into it. I sleep through noise that used to wake me up too.




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October 23, 2019, 10:07 AM
sigfreund
quote:
Originally posted by gearhounds:
I work out fairly hard 4-5 days a week ....


Preach it, brother.




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