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There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. Year V | |||
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Casuistic Thinker and Daoist |
Did you proof read this before you posted it. If they send a summons to someone to appear in court and they don't, how would sending a demand for DNA test to that same person result in a different outcome? I don't believe that is Dumb, but I believe that is a common definition of Insanity...if you expect a different result No, Daoism isn't a religion | |||
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Irksome Whirling Dervish |
Sap, I understand that you're result oriented on this issue and are doing your level best to avoid the defendant in this case taking any responsibility for his cirucmstances. The burden is on everyone else but the defendant and he can leave the country and avoid all of the unpleasantness that comes with litigation and say that he's triumphed over the system. The court is not set up to do anything other than apply the law to the facts. The judge is not your attorney and not the attorney for either side. If the defendant doesn't give a shit about his own case the court isn't going to give a shit for him. Get it? It's not complicated and yet you continue to insist that the court has not done its job until it orders bailiffs to go out and physically seize the defendant and extract a DNA swab from him. Is that what you think is the correct thing to do? Deputies: "We have a visual on the suspected baby daddy at Starbucks. I'll pop smoke to distract him and then hit the flashbang to disorient him." Baby Daddy: "I'll have a cup of coffee." Deputies: "Cover the entrances! Let's move!" Baby Daddy: "No, I don't need the receipt." Deputies: "Swarm!" Baby Daddy: "What the...?" Deputies: "Open your piehole because I have a court order to take your DNA with or without your permission." Baby Daddy: "Huh?" Deputies: "Do you want resisting and obstruction charges? Open your mouth and don't touch that hot coffee. It might be considered a weapon." Baby Daddy: "What's going on?" Deputies: "We don't have to explain anything and we're not leaving until you give us a DNA sample." Baby Daddy: "What's this for again? Who wants it?" Deputies: "I'll scratch out an obstruction ticket unless you stop talking." Baby Daddy: "Okay....." Deputies: "Thanks for your cooperation. The court will be in touch." | |||
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| probably a good thing I don't have a cut |
I'm just going to stick my head in the sand and hope this just all goes away by the time I come back out. | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process  |
I believe Chongo has a quote that might be apt here.
Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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| Little ray of sunshine  |
Well, it would work. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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eh-TEE-oh-clez |
All this proof about the guy not being the baby daddy is in hindsight. You have to understand that the court must make a determination with the evidence it has at hand. If the baby momma presents testimony that the guy is the baby daddy, and the baby daddy doesn't show up to present any evidence whatsoever, then the court must consider the evidence before it and make a finding. She says he did it, and if there's nobody there to call her a liar, then the court can only come to one conclusion. The court can't introduce its own evidence. It must only consider the evidence before it. At the time of the hearing, the court made the best decision it could. It's only in hindsight do we perceive whatever injustice there is to perceive. | |||
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| Do No Harm, Do Know Harm |
I've avoided this thread since reading the first 2 pages, ducked in to see how on earth it got to 9, and got a good chuckle. I quoted it from some guy I consider pretty smart  To Ateocles's point, a comment...the court will only consider what is properly introduced... The sole time I have ever been yelled at by a judge was when a senior Assistant District Attorney handed one of my trials (a very simple one) to the newest ADA as her first trial by herself. When she forgot to ask a couple of very important questions, I tried to sneak them in anyway. The judge was mildly humored the first time, not so much the second. "Objection sustained, enough layering from the witness stand, officer". Maybe not yelled...more of a sternly raised voice. We lost. Knowing what one is talking about is widely admired but not strictly required here. Although sometimes distracting, there is often a certain entertainment value to this easy standard. -JALLEN "All I need is a WAR ON DRUGS reference and I got myself a police thread BINGO." -jljones | |||
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Ammoholic |
Just send them to Phil Donahue or Maury Povich way cheaper and more entertaining. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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