ICE or Marshalls should be at every weigh station and truck stop in the country. In 3 months you could get them all. It’s a lot of resources but it would get the job done in a hurry.

The other thing that should happen is to remove the licensing authority for both California and New York as they have demonstrated that they can’t be trusted.

Yup. Few years ago when I want to update my DL to Real ID, they made me bring my US passport and hard copy of my Social Security card. How the hell can they get away with shit like this?

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Originally posted by Speedbird:
Anyone catch the "Real-ID" star on the top of the DL?

Talk about infuriating... Isn't this the exact reason we all had/have to go thru this process?

Someone at the DOT needs to go to prison.

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Originally posted by ador:
Yup. Few years ago when I want to update my DL to Real ID, they made me bring my US passport and hard copy of my Social Security card. How the hell can they get away with shit like this?

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Originally posted by Speedbird:
Anyone catch the "Real-ID" star on the top of the DL?

Talk about infuriating... Isn't this the exact reason we all had/have to go thru this process?

This isn't even new. When I moved from OH to NC back in the early 2010s, I went to the DMV to change my license.

I listened to an international student from where I worked come in for a license. He spoke almost no English and had another international student of a different nationality who was helping him interpret. The kid had NO proof of address whatsoever. They let him swear an affidavit that his address what he said it was.

After that, I came up and was denied a new license because I didn't have my damn passport or birth certificate. I had my old OH license, a contract from the school, a copy of a lease and an electric bill. And they made ME--an American citizen with all the forms of verification--drive all the way across town to find my passport, just so I could get an NC license when I already had a valid OH license.

I work live events and travel the country setting up corporate shows. Part of my job requires me to load and unload trucks. All of our gear comes in cases on wheels, some of which can weigh 1000 pounds or more.

We’ve had a hell of a time with these foreign truck drivers with their open toed shoes who barely speak English lately. A few weeks ago one of the guys dropping off gear ran into a light pole in the convention center parking lot and drove into the dock with part of the pole on top of his truck. He also fucked up one of his wheels and couldn’t get the truck to the dock so we had to unload him with a forklift.

Then on the out I was in the back with a couple rows of cases getting ready to strap them down when the driver decided to pull away from the dock without telling us. The unsecured cases rolled back trapping my hand between them and the loose strap. Fortunately the strap was at least in place so it caught them from going too far because it could have seriously injured one of us. Worse than that the guy was completely unapologetic and acted as though he did nothing wrong. Also fortunately someone was there to keep me from kicking the guys teeth in because that’s what I was headed to do.

It’s getting out of hand and a lot more people are going to die because of these fuckwits. But leftists are gonna leftist so I don’t see it getting better anytime soon.

In my previous line of work, I met maybe one or two people who had only one given name from outside the US. They did not have a surname.

I understand that in those cases, driver's licenses here would show the one name, and since they were not given a surname, one practice is to list "No Name Given."

Reading up on the subject, it seems that some have adopted and use a surname their family uses for documentation. So I don't think it is unusual, but it may offer illegal aliens a way to more easily create fake IDs and push their way to get "legal" documents.

Note that in the OP, Anmol's license read "No Name Given," but they referred to him as "Anmol Anmol" in the article. I've read that in some areas in India, it is common for someone to have only one name, but formal Indian documents like a passport do require a first and last name. For those documents, one option is to use the name twice, as referenced in this case. I'd be curious to see what his Indian documentation says about his name.

Illegal aliens should not be issued commercial driver's licenses in the USA. Issuing a Real ID indicates that the system is broken and should not be trusted ... so much for that 20-plus-year effort.

In short, the "No Name Given" stuff doesn't bother me too much, but I know it can be used to commit fraud. But issuing a CDL and a NY Real ID to an illegal alien is a violation of the law and trust.

That's the reasoning I've read as well. Pisses us off, especially if you've ever been jerked around by the DMV because you didn't dot your "i" just right. I can still remember having trouble getting my learners permit because I didn't have enough/any forms of ID. "I'm in 8th grade, what forms of ID do I have? You want my library card?"

We're more "advanced" (Ha!) in this country, so we're not used to it, but some of us forget how close to it we are. My last name is just the city in Sicily where my great grandfather came from. Just like millions of other people are named. Or like your Carpenters, Smiths, Coopers, Bakers etc etc (in English and countless other languages) Are you any move valid because of your great great grandfather's job?

That said... NY has made some arrests recently on CDL cheating rackets. No surprise there. I mean other than that they actually arrested someone. NY probably realized they weren't getting a cut of the pay off and had to put a stop to it.

Steve495: I came here also to post that the way in which “No Name Given” is being portrayed in the news is fake news.
Not only for the reason you mentioned, but if you look at the photo, it’s clear that the line under “No Name Given” is REDACTED. Why?
Because they’ve covered up HIS LAST NAME.
It’s only the MIDDLE name that’s “No Name Given”. In CA that would appear as “NMN” for “No Middle Name”—a much more clear designation.

The whole thing is—IMO and anyone can prove me wrong—that the “story” is based on a clear misinterpretation of the photo of the license.

I have a student who on the roll sheet and in the system is "NFN" or No first name.

He has a last name. first time in 28 years I have seen this.

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Originally posted by Pale Horse:
Then on the out I was in the back with a couple rows of cases getting ready to strap them down when the driver decided to pull away from the dock without telling us.

We require drivers to be out of their truck and at the desk before we load/unload. I suggest you do the same. Foreigners should not be allowed to drive trucks in the US.

This all just noise

The bottom line is do you want these people driving 60,000 pound trucks at highway speeds if they can’t read, write or understand English.

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Originally posted by sjtill:
... if you look at the photo, it’s clear that the line under “No Name Given” is REDACTED. Why?
Because they’ve covered up HIS LAST NAME.
It’s only the MIDDLE name that’s “No Name Given”. In CA that would appear as “NMN” for “No Middle Name”—a much more clear designation.

To clarify, in the OP, the CDL field filled in is the last name (ANMOL). The first name is listed as "No Name Given." The middle name or middle initial would be shown on the No Name given line.
The following redaction is two lines for the address in a smaller font.

Examples of the NYS CDL are available online to compare.

Another "No Name Given" in action, SMDH

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1979250171952169054

https://x.com/BillMelugin_/sta...h-california-highway



https://x.com/ABC7/status/1981042609561760130

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1981489902475706485

In reality he got lucky one time on a multiple answer test.


Illegal migrant charged in fatal Florida crash reportedly failed CDL test 10 times before accident

https://justthenews.com/politi..._campaign=newsletter

Illegal migrant and truck driver Harjinder Singh, who was allegedly responsible for a fatal crash in Florida earlier this year, reportedly failed the test to get his commercial driver’s license (CDL) 10 times before he finally got it in 2023.

Singh, who had obtained a commercial driver’s license in California, has been charged with three counts of vehicular homicide in connection with the crash that occurred in August, in which three people were killed.

Investigators with the Florida Attorney General’s Office told Fox News on Thursday that Singh failed his CDL knowledge exam in Washington state 10 times between March 10, 2023, and May 5, 2023, and his air brakes knowledge exam twice.

The sources told the outlet that the Washington office that trained Singh acknowledged the man could speak English, but that he struggled with it. Both Washington state and California eventually gave Singh his CDL.

Florida investigators also said Singh failed English and road sign tests.

The report comes after the Transportation Department, under Secretary Sean Duffy, created new rules for issuing CDLs that seek to make it more difficult for migrants to acquire the licenses. The new rule closes dangerous loopholes and "launches immediate enforcement action against California for gross negligence."

The secretary said part of the pressure on California is because drivers usually have nationwide routes, meaning that California licensees will be able to drive anywhere in the country.

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Originally posted by wcb6092:

https://x.com/ABC7/status/1981042609561760130

Gavin Newsom blamed the "federal government" for basically letting the illegal alien into the country, and that CA was following the law in regards to giving this murderer his CDL. Newsom has blood on his hands, multiple times, with these illegal truck drivers.

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Originally posted by TomV:
Doesn't California also give Drivers Licenses to anyone ?

Pretty much.
CA DMV is notorious for its questionable record keeping but also being shot-through with shady individuals not just working behind the counter but at middle management as well. Obtaining unauthorized tags, plates, and ID's from various offices isn't unheard of. Providing CDL's to illegals is approved all the way through the legislature and governors office under the guise of allowing people to work but overlooking obvious problems such as language, civic understanding and safety compliance.

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Originally posted by corsair:

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Originally posted by TomV:
Doesn't California also give Drivers Licenses to anyone ?

Pretty much.

Some of the examiners are a little more relaxed, but many of them at least require the applicant to be able to fog a mirror. Sigh…