Originally posted by c1steve: And today, we are in our own battle of the bulge with the thieves and the progressives.
Please don't try and equate our current political climate to brave young men with frostbitten fingers literally fighting their lives. Good grief.
I'm gonna vote for the funniest frog with the loudest croak on the highest log.
December 16, 2020, 02:50 PM
Elk Hunter
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Originally posted by maxwayne: The battle started 76 years ago today. It was one of the coldest Winters on record in Europe. My dad was there in the 3rd Armored Division.
I enlisted in 1955 in the 3AD, to go to Germany. Spent a total of more than 9 years there, out of 11 on active duty. Did a year in Iran, too.
The first tour was partly spent near Giessen, the transferred to Frankfurt. 2nc tour was completely in Frankfurt. I remember some of those cold winters.
Coincidently, a guy that worked with my dad was part of that battle of the bulge.
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December 16, 2020, 04:54 PM
Blackmore
"Nuts!"
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December 16, 2020, 06:47 PM
satch
My brother was inducted into the 69th devision in late Nov 44. The Bulge started and his company only had 4 weeks training in basic, and they were told they get more training in Europe. You know what that means. His company didn’t fight in the bulge but did meet the Russians at the Elbe river.
December 16, 2020, 07:02 PM
Schmelby
The best book about the battle is "A Time For Trumpets" by Charles MacDonald. A company commander and an official Army historian. Great read!
December 17, 2020, 08:27 AM
shovelhead
My dad was there also, Field Artillery attached to the 10th Armored Division.
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December 17, 2020, 08:36 AM
cslinger
I would never take anything away from our modern soldiers and things they have experienced in the GWOT and lead up to it.
That said I just can’t wrap my mind around the kids who literally and willingly ran into a meat grinder on D-Day or the sheer misery of the Battle of the Buldge.
I just really don’t understand how somebody can be that tough, that brave etc. it always makes me feel like a child in comparison.
Those were some tough sons a bitches to be sure.
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December 17, 2020, 11:10 AM
divil
My National Guard Division (28th ID) had a role in that battle and consequently I am always trying to add to my library good books on the subject. I cannot imagine the hardships those troops underwent in that battle only the Chosin few knew colder battle temperatures.
December 17, 2020, 11:34 AM
mrw
I very good book I recommend that is first hand account of the battle is Seven Roads to Hell
This book was written by the soldier soon after the battle.
My cousin Mel was there. Never met a guy with a better outlook on life, and happier to be alive. I think it was connected. He never liked cold weather. Might be a connection.
He'd go hunting with my dad though, even in cold weather. He once told me it wasn't nearly as bad, and he knew the car heater worked well and wasn't far away. Besides, he had access to warm socks around here.
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December 17, 2020, 02:13 PM
Rick Lee
The only BotB vet I knew was a German. He was 19 and wounded and captured there, eventually got sent to an interment camp in Norway. By the time he was released, the town he had come from had become part of Poland and so he settled where his nearest relative was, which was in the American occupation zone, but was eventually traded back to the Soviets. So he spent the rest of his life in East Germany.
December 17, 2020, 02:21 PM
RogueJSK
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Originally posted by Schmelby: The best book about the battle is "A Time For Trumpets" by Charles MacDonald.
Charles MacDonald also wrote a memoir called "Company Commander" that is excellent, and covers his own personal experience commanding an Infantry company during the Bulge.
Whereas "A Time for Trumpets" is an overall historical look at the battle as a whole.
December 17, 2020, 05:59 PM
Rigby470
I met a man who fought at Normandy and the Battle of the Bulge. He almost lost his feet to frostbite in the battle. Great man!
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December 17, 2020, 06:05 PM
Bytes
Thank God those men were on our side. Unbelievable heroism.
December 17, 2020, 06:07 PM
TMats
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Grandpa, were you a hero in the War?
No, but I was in the company of heroes. - Richard D “Dick” Winters
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December 17, 2020, 08:36 PM
Micropterus
A little known massacre on or about December 17 worth knowing about...
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December 17, 2020, 08:50 PM
Wolfpacker
My father was in in the Battle of the Bulge. Just an infantryman. He did not like to talk about it.
A great generation of war heroes passing away!
December 17, 2020, 09:25 PM
shovelhead
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Originally posted by mrw: I very good book I recommend that is first hand account of the battle is Seven Roads to Hell
This book was written by the soldier soon after the battle.
Mr. Burgett was a friend of the owner of the gun shop I occasionally work at here in town. Unfortunately our paths did not cross before he passed.
Here is how Mr. Burgett was honored by the local Post Office and the community after his passing.https://www.whmi.com/news/article/howell-post-office-burgett
-------------------------------------—————— ————————--Ignorance is a powerful tool if applied at the right time, even, usually, surpassing knowledge(E.J.Potter, A.K.A. The Michigan Madman)