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Originally posted by NK402:
That story has been out there for awhile and is probably what happened. Cremation makes more sense than bizarre stories of burials in stadium end zones. The simplest solution to a puzzle is usually the correct one .

It looks to me like cremation isn't always available, judging by the mob hits that did not take advantages of those advantages.

Yeah but for a high profile target like Hoffa, you'd think that if they were going to do it for anyone, it would be him.

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Originally posted by ryan81986:

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Originally posted by JALLEN:

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Originally posted by NK402:
That story has been out there for awhile and is probably what happened. Cremation makes more sense than bizarre stories of burials in stadium end zones. The simplest solution to a puzzle is usually the correct one .

It looks to me like cremation isn't always available, judging by the mob hits that did not take advantages of those advantages.

Yeah but for a high profile target like Hoffa, you'd think that if they were going to do it for anyone, it would be him.

Sure, but you need reliable facilities conveniently located, not always something available.

I assume you can't just look up one in the yellow pages and drop off your subject for further processing.

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Sure, but you need reliable facilities conveniently located, not always something available.

I assume you can't just look up one in the yellow pages and drop off your subject for further processing.[/QUOTE]

"He was later told Hoffa was cremated at a mob-connected funeral home."

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"He was later told Hoffa was cremated at a mob-connected funeral home."

Yeah, I'm guessing there were a few of them around Michigan back in them days.

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Sure, but you need reliable facilities conveniently located, not always something available.

I assume you can't just look up one in the yellow pages and drop off your subject for further processing.[/QUOTE]

"He was later told Hoffa was cremated at a mob-connected funeral home."[/QUOTE]

Indeed, a happy convenience in Hoffa's case but not always available for run of the mill mob hits, my original point.

No matter what one thing is for sure. He is still dead.

UFOs, Amelia Earhart, Sasquatch, Jimmy Hoffa... I believe that the only thing we'll ever know for sure, is that we're never going to know for sure.

Seeing how Hoffa has not been seen in 35 years and would be 104 years old now I think it would be safe to say: Jimmy is dead Jim.

While I have obviously no inside knowledge, but upon looking at things like "motive" and "opportunity" it is pretty had to think that anyone but organized crime is responsible for Hoffa's death.

They had the most to lose from him, and the most to gain.

There are hundreds, if not thousands of bodies that organized crime is responsible for that have both never been found, or never been solved.

Bill the Cat's prayer: "Oh Lord give me the strength to swiftly kill those that piss me off and the wisdom to hide their bodies where they can't be found."

The story I heard years ago was that Hoffa was bumped off on the orders of Russell Bufalino. Jimmy was causing too many waves for the Teamster/Mob hierarchy and had to go away. After Jimmy was hit, his body was taken to a nearby pig farm, disassembled, and fed to the pigs. Nothing was left after the pigs were done. The pigs themselves were later taken to a slaughter house and turned into tasty animal flesh consumer products. Life goes full circle.

At this point what difference does it make?

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At this point what difference does it make?

Highly unlikely the suspects are still alive, or at least the ones that ordered the hit...

But the hitmen might still be.... And the ill gotten gains might still be traceable by forensic accounting.

Would be nice for closure for the family, and to seize the ill gotten gains of the mob...

You know... not being a fan of criminals and all...

so what makes youse guys tink he wasn't cremated and his ashes put in widt da dry cement that wuz mixed up an used in da end zone at Giants stadium huh, everyone keeps talking about a body, what body...

Back in the day I had heard Florida Everglades and wood chipper.

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Back in the day I had heard Florida Everglades and wood chipper.

Right state and disposal unit, wrong dead guy, this happened in 1992, true story...

http://articles.orlandosentine...mency-roger-richmond

Killer Asks For Mercy As Battered Woman
August 20, 1998|By Jill Duff-Hoppes of The Sentinel Staff
An Oviedo woman who stabbed her boyfriend to death in 1992 is asking for clemency on the grounds that she was a battered woman.

Michele Roger's case will be heard later this year by the Clemency Board in Tallahassee, said Edie Ousley, spokeswoman for Gov. Lawton Chiles. Roger is asking to be released from prison on time she has served.

Roger was convicted in August 1994 of second-degree murder with a weapon and sentenced to 17 years in prison. She said her boyfriend, David Richmond, often abused her and she killed him in self-defense.

Roger, a former topless dancer, said Richmond threatened to kill her and tried to push her face onto a hot stove burner the night she killed him. She stabbed him at their Oviedo condominium on Sept. 6, 1992, and then rushed to her parents' home for help.

Her father, Will Roger, admitted to burning Richmond's body, putting the skeleton into a wood chipper, mixing it with concrete and dumping it into the ocean off New Smyrna Beach.

Her brother, Ken, helped remove and dispose of the body. They were sentenced to two years of probation.

Her mother, Agnes, was sentenced to probation for not reporting Richmond's death.

Jim Richmond, the victim's father, doesn't believe Roger's allegations of abuse.

``This was a ploy used during the trial and found not to be plausible by the jury,'' he said Wednesday. ``My family does not want to see clemency granted.''

Richmond was notified this week by the Office of Executive Clemency that Roger's case will be heard Sept. 17. Ousley said the case might not be heard until December. The Clemency Board, made up of Chiles and the Cabinet, meets quarterly.

Chris White, chief of operations for the State Attorney's Office in Sanford, had not been notified as of Wednesday about Roger's plea for clemency.

``I think our office will more than likely oppose it,'' White said.

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Back in the day I had heard Florida Everglades and wood chipper.