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We have the opposite problem in Texas, but when all these little eco warrior idiots are happy about energy prices going up, I ask them if they are okay with old people and babies dying when people can’t afford to air condition their house, because that is what happens. | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower  |
We have forum members in the Northeast. Lots of them. | |||
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From the article: - but no mention on Biden shutting down the pipelines, and such.  "Several factors are driving hikes in home heating prices, including the war in Ukraine, OPEC+ cuts, a surge in energy exports, lower energy inventories, and a high demand for natural gas in the US electric power sector, according to the Energy Information Administration (EIA)." | |||
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No way is the lamestresm press going to call that Spade a “Spade”. Overlook and Obfuscate at all costs. | |||
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Maybe if you hadn't led off with the 'Zero Fucks to Give', your post wouldn't have been so 'off-putting' to those that are 'Getting Fucked'... ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 47....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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If I lived in an oil heating area, I’d be getting me a DIY mini-split heat pump and install it yesterday. Demand not that events should happen as you wish; but wish them to happen as they do happen, and you will go on well. -Epictetus | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower |
Let's be nice to our fellow forum members. | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower |
I doubt that any forum members who are facing the prospects of a difficult winter for their family want to be lectured right now. If that's not clear enough, I can lock the thread. | |||
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I’m starting to think that might not be that far away. There is such a divide between people in this country that I can honestly foresee physical confrontations to force people to see things their way. It’s kind of what we saw during the inner city riots after the George Floyd incident, urban folks committing widespread acts of violence in an effort to try to force others to see things their way. With the virtually complete lack of consequences for those that committed such violent acts in 2020, I can see folks on the other end of the spectrum trying something similar in the not too distant future. We really are like 2 different countries nowadays. “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.” | |||
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Any trash that comes down any driveway in WV to “redistribute” their property is likely to get stacked like cordwood. Same as a lot of other places. If they think they’ll get the Floyd pass, they are in for a rude awakening. Let ‘em go for it in democRAT strongholds though… “Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown | |||
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I have been working with heating oil companies for the last 30 years. The current market is brutal for both consumers and the companies. As bad as oil prices are, dyed kerosene is even worse. It is pushing $10 per gallon. Most companies are family businesses and when high prices force customers to take longer to pay, it puts a real strain on their credit lines. They are paying their suppliers via EFT within 7 days. There are also supply issues and companies have been seeing allocation. I had one client in NY who was limited to a total 1800 gallons for the week. His other supplier was totally out and wouldn’t get any oil for 7-8 days. Had another client who could only get oil from one of the 7 suppliers they use. Tough winter ahead. Will be interesting to see how all the people who paid crazy money to move from an apartment to a large house deal with the sticker shock of their heating bill. "You know, Scotland has its own martial arts. Yeah, it's called Fuck You. It's mostly just head butting and then kicking people when they're on the ground." - Charlie MacKenzie (Mike Myers in "So I Married an Axe Murderer") | |||
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I don’t want to see any suffering with heating bills, already hear from relatives. I think I was born with a defective gene, I actually enjoy dealing with firewood. I have enough contacts, trees to cut down or cut up haven’t been a problem. I have a free-standing woodstove, pile goes out over 2 years. Cold & windy outside, comfortable 75 inside. I consider wood burning the original ‘green energy’. I started as a young lad, seems very normal way to heat to me. I realize, not an easy option for many. | |||
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^^^That's NOT a 'defective gene'...It's the gene of 'Self Reliance' and a good old-fashioned hard work ethic! It's downright American!  ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 47....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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Hey, I have an idea! Why don't all you Northern Liberals just install some solar panels? That green energy will keep you nice and warm. Then you won't have to buy that dirty stinky $6 a gallon fuel oil. Remember Build Back Better? How do you like it now? ---------------------------------------------------- Dances with Crabgrass | |||
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^^^What exactly makes you think that ANY of us here are 'Northern Liberals' anyway? Did you neglect to insert the Wink/Sarcasm/Wise Ass emoticon, or is it just another 'Zero Fucks to Give' post? ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 47....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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My 82-year-old neighbor just installed a nat-gas supply line this summer circumventing his in the ground fuel tank for his boiler. The predicted rise in fuel cost were his rationale for the investment/work. Equally, we upgraded our nat-gas line to 1 1/8” diameter supply for the generator. Not inexpensive. We live in earthquake regions, so if one were to occur, it’s likely the utility will shut off the natgas. Therefore, we have the option to easily swap over to local propane supply. We also have a 10kW solar system that produces almost as much as we use over the year; however, being so far north, we don’t get much sunshine in the winter, so for all intents and purposes in the winter it’s almost nil. Lastly, I live in the middle of a forest; we have trees to last a lifetime. They’re weeds here. We just went through a yield curve inversion between the two year and 10 years. Watch your six brothers… "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower |
Who, exactly, are you addressing in this forum? I'd estimate us to be awfully light on "liberals" no matter what their location. | |||
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I take this as ‘figuratively speaking’, for those that complain who voted towards policies leading to high prices. I don’t take it as directed to any here, as one would expect, few lefties. | |||
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