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Originally posted by sourdough44:
I don’t want to see any suffering with heating bills, already hear from relatives. I think I was born with a defective gene, I actually enjoy dealing with firewood. I have enough contacts, trees to cut down or cut up haven’t been a problem.

I have a free-standing woodstove, pile goes out over 2 years. Cold & windy outside, comfortable 75 inside.

I consider wood burning the original ‘green energy’. I started as a young lad, seems very normal way to heat to me. I realize, not an easy option for many.

You & me both. We live in the mountains & alot of people around here burn wood. I've been heating with a wood stove since 1970. We have back-up baseboard electric heat for the warmer months when the wood stove would be too much, but wood is our primary heat source.

I'm fine working outside in the coldest weather, but when I'm in the house I want to be warm. Just being not cold isn't good enough. I want to be WARM.

I don't *enjoy* doing the splitting, etc, that firewood involves, but I prefer it to buying LP...

A little birdie told me not to buy any chainsaws before Christmas. It'll be interesting to see why that is.

I'd have to go back to my teenage years to remember a house I have lived in that did not have a fireplace. It was never our main source of heat, but they were always lit up during the winter.

I enjoy the work needed to get the firewood but when I got into my late 60's, a log splitter did help some.

I had a fireplace insert as the sole source of heat in my old house for over 20 years.

I kind of enjoyed it but it got old as I got older.

Wow! $600 per month (or more) in oil just for heat?!?

When that is the case, how much I the electric bill?

Sorry for the silly questions. While I grew up in Cincinnati, I think it was mostly electric heat. I do recall my parents covering the window openings in a film from the hardware store, similar to plastic wrap, to help insulate the windows. And I recall them hanging blankets in openings between rooms to partially seal off other areas of the house so the electric bill would be less. But I never recall oil.

Having lived in Florida since my teens, it's all electric, central air and heat. Having moved into a new house in April, the early summer electric bill surged well into the $600 range. But I made some adjustments to get it down in the high $400, low $500 range. And now that summer is gone, low $300 range.

But I could not imagine a $300 electric bill, and then piling on a $600 heating bill.

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Originally posted by holdem:
When that is the case, how much I the electric bill?

I use around 100gal/mo during the cold parts, and my electric use is around 1175kWh/mo (average over the same months).
Our current price for power is roughly $0.206/kWh (delivery and generation). That will be going up soon to $0.264kWh

Current bill is $242 and will go to $310 next year.

Yes, I'm taking steps to find ways to reduce the usage of both, but it's an older (leaky) farm house and I can only do so much at a time.

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Our current price for power is roughly $0.206/kWh (delivery and generation). That will be going up soon to $0.264kWh

Sweet mother of Jesus, I thought I was getting raped ~17¢/kwh...

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Originally posted by Gibb:

I use around 100gal/mo during the cold parts, and my electric use is around 1175kWh/mo (average over the same months).
Our current price for power is roughly $0.206/kWh (delivery and generation). That will be going up soon to $0.264kWh

Current bill is $242 and will go to $310 next year.

So in peak season, you are around $800 per month for heating and electric? Dang, I guess I should not have complained that much about my July power bill.

My most recent Electric Bill, which I believe includes an entire month at the recently announced 112% rate increase, is $0.3143/kWh! FJB!

Let's Go Brandon!

We have NG for heat, but prices have doubled in the past year. Maybe if the government printed more money they can hand it to us so we can burn it for warmth

: )

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Originally posted by whanson_wi:

A little birdie told me not to buy any chainsaws before Christmas. It'll be interesting to see why that is.

The ads on Craiglist will be epic:

Chainsaw for sale

Like new, run once, dropped once, small bloodstain. No reasonable offer refused!

Can y'all still get coal? I realize its a bit dirty to burn in a house, but, obviously, its rather easy to keep a stockpile on hand.

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Originally posted by sourdough44:
I consider wood burning the original ‘green energy’

I doubt that the EnviroNazis would agree with you. The smoke from burning wood may invoke pleasant memories, but it contains a lot of pollutants. They certainly would not consider it to be a "green" activity. YMMV

flashguy

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Originally posted by flashguy:

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Originally posted by sourdough44:
I consider wood burning the original ‘green energy’

I doubt that the EnviroNazis would agree with you. The smoke from burning wood may invoke pleasant memories, but it contains a lot of pollutants. They certainly would not consider it to be a "green" activity. YMMV

flashguy

Yeah, I've been waiting for the enviro-nazis to start demanding regulations on wood & coal stove use.

On the other hand, that volcano in Hawaii is probably spewing more pollution in the atmosphere every day than all the wood & coal stoves in the north-east will put out in a lifetime.

I got 200 gallons two weeks ago, $1024. The most I've ever paid for the least amount of fuel.


Had to make sure there was oil in the tank before I went on "vacation" (hunting). My grandfather's falling down cabin up north has a kerosene stove for heat. When it's real cold you burn about 5 gallons a day. The local "mom and pop" type store I try to support was up to $13 and change a gallon. (was $7.50 a gallon the last weekend of Oct) Sorry mom and pop, I kept going. Drove to Cooperstown, I'd gotten K2 there for $6.40 that same weekend, while every other place was $7+ Well that ship sailed, it was up to $7.25 Luckily it was pretty warm all week, but it total I spent $240 of Kerosene, I got off really light. I was expecting $400-$450 worth.

Were other political parties in office, this would be the top story of the news and the headline in every paper. They'd be screaming about the potential horrific tragedy and a national crisis. As is though, it's just an occasional blurb.

Gas and diesel prices have dropped in my area of Florida, under $3 and under $5 a gallon respectively. Hopefully, that’s a sign heating oil prices will drop soon.

Heating oil has dropped some, down to $4.199 this morning. I paid $5.499 1 month ago, however I was paying $2.639 1 year ago!

That's the kicker about the kerosene, it's really really slow to adjust downward, and never came close to fully doing so.

I remember being horrified under Obama when it got to the high $3's, to mid $4's. With Trump gas was cheap, but the kero only got back into the mid 3's. With it in the mid 7's and above now, no matter who's in office or how cheap gas is, I doubt it will ever get close to $5 again.

I’ve never seen Kerosene below $3.00, even during the Trump years. That’s 1K. I’ve never seen 2K for sale. Last year I hauled a bunch of Jerry cans down to our local airport and bought Jet-A for $3.89. That’s good stuff, and that airport fuel gets sumped every day, so it is nice and clean. No water. It seems just like 1K Kero I’ve purchased in cans.

How does one go about getting to use airport pumps? Are they open to the public?

I have been using 1K Kero for a couple of years in space heaters. I only know of two places that I can buy it. They are saying that they are having trouble getting it. Winter is just starting.

Might have to start getting fire wood as a back up.