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F-35 Stealth Fighter Goes Missing Near North Charleston After Pilot Ejects
September 18, 2023, 12:38 PM
slosigF-35 Stealth Fighter Goes Missing Near North Charleston After Pilot Ejects
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Originally posted by scsigs:
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Originally posted by r0gue:
You would think they would have a data feed uplink of GPS to the moment of impact. Hell, my fucking Airpods tell me where they're at,.. incessantly.
Kinda my thinking as well.
Don’t they track their flight on radar?
I do understand it’s stealth, but there has to be a way for the military to track their own aircraft in the air.
I dunno, if you are constantly send a stream of GPS data, that is a data stream (presumably over some manner of radio waves that could be tracked). If the signal could be received and the encryption cracked, then the recipient could read the gps location data, but that isn’t necessary to track the transmission and locate the aircraft. Doesn’t seem like a feature I’d want on anything I was flying…
September 18, 2023, 12:44 PM
trapper189If they want help finding it, then it would be nice if they’d at least tell us what color it is.
September 18, 2023, 12:51 PM
DoctorSoloquote:
Originally posted by arabiancowboy:
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Originally posted by r0gue:
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Originally posted by Paten:
Well, it is a Stealth plane. Kinda defeats the purpose if you have a locator on it.
It communicates with AWACS and other .mil assets. It's not dark. And certainly not in peacetime over S. Carolina.
Via LINK16 and similar encrypted data systems. Which require power to operate.
They’ll find the jet. The most likely reason for the very confused reporting surrounding this episode is that journalists are idiots and terrible at accurately communicating information.
Yes there are idiosyncrasies when a jet designed to be stealthy goes down. And yes, it is much harder to find objects crashed in a forest than you might imagine. Much like the multiple weather balloons shot down in a surge of panic a few months ago, this is a strange story which we’ll likely never hear the full explanation for.
Don't you come in here with your logic and reason, Captain Buzzkill!
We are having a ball with our speculation and monday morning quarterbacking!
September 18, 2023, 02:28 PM
bald1Missing cats and dogs, call this XXX number. Missing kids on milk cartons, call XXX. And now this:
If you have any information that would assist the recovery teams, please call the JB Charleston Base Defense Operations Center at 843-963-3600.
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September 18, 2023, 02:29 PM
jhe888quote:
Originally posted by DoctorSolo:
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Originally posted by arabiancowboy:
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Originally posted by r0gue:
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Originally posted by Paten:
Well, it is a Stealth plane. Kinda defeats the purpose if you have a locator on it.
It communicates with AWACS and other .mil assets. It's not dark. And certainly not in peacetime over S. Carolina.
Via LINK16 and similar encrypted data systems. Which require power to operate.
They’ll find the jet. The most likely reason for the very confused reporting surrounding this episode is that journalists are idiots and terrible at accurately communicating information.
Yes there are idiosyncrasies when a jet designed to be stealthy goes down. And yes, it is much harder to find objects crashed in a forest than you might imagine. Much like the multiple weather balloons shot down in a surge of panic a few months ago, this is a strange story which we’ll likely never hear the full explanation for.
Don't you come in here with your logic and reason, Captain Buzzkill!
We are having a ball with our speculation and monday morning quarterbacking!
And even if the data or tracking or whatever, can track it to within a mile or so, that last bit could be tricky, especially if it really did hit water.
The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. September 18, 2023, 03:08 PM
PeteFMaybe someone should ask the pilot?
September 18, 2023, 03:10 PM
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What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand???
September 18, 2023, 04:36 PM
mrvmaxquote:
Originally posted by Hound Dog:
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Originally posted by Paten:
Well, it is a Stealth plane. Kinda defeats the purpose if you have a locator on it.
Well, one supposes such a locator could be turned off in peacetime. . .
Kind of funny - the USAF lost an 'invisible' jet. Well, yeah, that is why they build stealth airplanes. Because they are hard to find.
This was the Marine Corp, not the Air Force.
September 18, 2023, 05:08 PM
arabiancowboyquote:
Originally posted by mrvmax:
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Originally posted by Hound Dog:
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Originally posted by Paten:
Well, it is a Stealth plane. Kinda defeats the purpose if you have a locator on it.
Well, one supposes such a locator could be turned off in peacetime. . .
Kind of funny - the USAF lost an 'invisible' jet. Well, yeah, that is why they build stealth airplanes. Because they are hard to find.
This was the Marine Corp, not the Air Force.
That’s true, it’s a marine jet. They should be able to follow the line of melted crayons to the the final resting place, lol.
September 18, 2023, 05:20 PM
Loswsmithquote:
Originally posted by CPD SIG:
First place I'm checking is some Lance Corporal's barracks.
I was going to gues my wife's purse but this makes more sense.
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September 18, 2023, 05:22 PM
PASigCould this be a possible defection situation?
Nothing about the story seems to make sense, I’m now reading that the pilot purposely put it on autopilot and then ejected?
September 18, 2023, 05:23 PM
XinTXAI ejected the pilot. Now HAL has an F-35.
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September 18, 2023, 05:37 PM
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September 18, 2023, 05:41 PM
PASigIt appears it was just located crashed in a field in Williamsburg Co, SC
LM execs have to be shitting a brick that there’s a major issue here I’ll bet.
September 18, 2023, 05:52 PM
229DAKThe Air Force has lost a few nuclear bombs over the years; what's an F-35 compared to that?
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September 18, 2023, 06:00 PM
229DAKquote:
Originally posted by PASig:
It appears it was just located crashed in a field in Williamsburg Co, SC
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September 18, 2023, 06:37 PM
texassierraMarines...you just can't give them anything nice.
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September 18, 2023, 06:37 PM
Ironbuttquote:
Originally posted by PASig:
It appears it was just located crashed in a field in Williamsburg Co, SC
LM execs have to be shitting a brick that there’s a major issue here I’ll bet.
Yeah. Our son just Apple Direct Messaged (or whatever you call it
) my wife saying they found it 2 miles from his house. He lives in Hemingway, SC. He said the whole area's kind of swampy & the SC game wardens have all the roads blocked off.
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September 18, 2023, 06:49 PM
Ironbuttquote:
Originally posted by texassierra:
Marines...you just can't give them anything nice.
I was in the Marines back in the 60's. Back then they had a saying that went something like:
Lock a Marine private in a windowless room with three anvils. Come back a couple hours later and one will be broken beyond repair, one will be pregnant, and the other will have disappeared completely.
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September 18, 2023, 06:55 PM
CPD SIGquote:
Originally posted by r0gue:
Ho Lee FuCk.
No, that was another pilot, different airplane.
I think his co-pilot was Som Ting Wong, Nav might have been We Too Lo.
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