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I was on a FB page and someone recommended Penzeys Lemon Pepper, so I went to shop. I get the homepage and look at the menu bar and do a double take. Why is "About Republicans" part of the menu on a food site? Well, they hate me or maybe us! Why in the world would you think this was good business? Needless to say I did not place an order.

I posted their full "speech", just skip to the last couple of paragraphs to see how misguided they are.

https://www.penzeys.com/

About Republicans

As we’ve now said on our first-ever About Us page on our website, there’s something unique about humankind’s relationship with spices that time and again have caused spices to be a driving force for change. We live in a time calling out for change and for solutions to the very real problems our country and our planet face. There’s two very different futures ahead for us totally dependent on whether we solve these problems or not. With so much at stake we feel obligated to use the unique position spices hold in our lives to try to help promote the solutions to these problems as best we can.

Watching the slow decline of the Republican Party over the last half century, and the steep decline/bottom falling out over the last decade, it can be easy to see the nonsense that has overtaken the party as pretty much random. Once you start seriously looking at the problems America and the world face and who and what are standing in the way of solving those problems, it quickly becomes clear there is nothing random to what the Republicans are promoting.

The Republican departure from conservative values and embrace of what, from a distance, looks a whole lot like insanity didn’t happen by chance. All of it has been intelligently crafted with the goal of preserving the position of those who profit from the inhumanity that is at the very roots of pretty much every problem we are facing. From the environment, to racism/discrimination, to health, to saving our democracy at home and growing it abroad, half the time Republicans are intentionally blocking the solution to the problems we face. The other half of the time they are the problem we face.

The truth of our time is we’ve arrived at the point where there’s no way to respect the nonsense the Republican Party is promoting and have any hope of overcoming the problems we as a nation and we as a planet face. Given the choice between saving America and planet Earth or saving the feelings of Republican voters, we are choosing to side with saving our country and our world. I’m sorry it’s come to this.

And no, there is no HATE!!! in any of this. There is a whole lot of propaganda at the heart of much of how Republican voters have been steered away from conservative values to what they now seem all too happy to vote for. The thing to remember about propaganda is that it doesn’t just misinform, it also works to make people immune from the truth by convincing them any facts that counter their propaganda are nothing more than HATE!!! But we really have no hate for Republican voters. None at all.

I actually like and respect most of you guys. Sure, there are a growing number that are there for the racism, but I still believe the majority of you have good hearts that want to help and do the right thing. I know you to be trustworthy, and honest, and funny, and caring, and good souls. The problem isn’t what you are, the problem is what you are now voting to support. You guys have been turned around.

Remember when your distrust of big city types, and your deep rooted beliefs in paying your debts, respecting your marriage, raising kids willing to serve, honoring your word, and going to church every week had you voting for Donald Trump over Joe Biden all because Biden’s son had a computer? Or how you couldn’t vote for Hillary because she was over-prepared and used emails? I know that to you your actions seem rational and in keeping with your values, but when it comes to voting you are now consistently voting in people who are the exact opposite of you and the values you hold dear.

What does any of this mean? Going forward we would still be glad to have you as customers, but we’re done pretending the Republican Party’s embrace of cruelty, racism, Covid lies, climate change denial, and threats to democracy are anything other than the risks they legitimately are. If you need us to pretend you are not creating the hurt you are creating in order for you to continue to be our customer, I’m sad to say you might be happier elsewhere.

If on the other hand you still want the best spices and don’t need us to respect what you now vote for to be our customer, Hooray! We are happy to have you here, but know that we will, on a regular basis, try to wake you up from this dream that has you believing there is anything conservative left at all to what the Republican Party has become. We can and will work without Republicans to solve the problems we face, but it sure would be nice to get back to a time where Republicans were equal defenders of equality, the environment, and democracy. We look forward to that day.


Thanks for reading. Thanks for being here,

Bill


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Yep, big discussion back in 2017 - 2022 over this.. But it bears reminding people of the companies attitude toward Republicans, conservatives, especially Trump MAGA...

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Bill is an idiot! And he's wrong!




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Not particularly new. From 2022, still on their FB page:




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I’ve lived 51 years and never heard of their company. I’m gonna lose sleep tonight, let me tell ya


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You should contact them and let them know why you've failed to make a purchase based on their ideology.
 
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Good. I hope he keeps it up. They have a really nice store here that I shopped at quite a bit but once I found out how bad he was, I wished I had known it earlier.
He needs to keep spewing his garbage so people know.
 
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Well Cool-Aid drinking Bill can go fuck himself.

What a pompous ass.


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Going forward we would still be glad to have you as customers


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I used to buy a lot of spices from a local branch of Penzey’s… until the owner started in with the lunatic screeds… I boxed up all of my Penzey’s spices and returned them to that store. “Not only will I not be buying from you any more, I won’t even use what I’ve already purchased.”

I wasn’t mad at the clerk, she’s not to blame.


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We used to shop at Penzeys on a regular basis, their spices and vanilla were top notch. That is until the owner went way off the deep end and basically told his customers if they didn't agree with his politics that he no longer wanted them as customers. We stopped supporting that store, unsubscribed from all emails and sent them an email telling them why.


Shortly after we were looking for a different place to purchase spices and found The Spice House. While looking at the ownership I found out that it was Bill Penzey Jr's sister Patty. I sent The Spice house an email telling them why I was looking for a new source and got a really nice personal email from her stating they very careful to never bring politics or personal opinions into their company. Sold!


For us, The Spice House and Mount Hope Wholesale (affiliated with Sigforum's own Beancooker) has completely replaced Penzeys.
 
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The title says it all.

How stupid do you have to be piss off 1/2 of your market over virtue signaling and condescending attitude?



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And Billy doesn’t realize that Republican can be replaced with Democrat in his tirade.

His beloved party has created more division in this country than ever could be imagined in the past.

His statement “I actually like and respect most of you guys” made me think of the oft said statement in the sixties “some of my best friends are…..”

I rate that up there with John Kerry, our ex (or ex to be) energy czar and his in your face flying all over the globe and telling us, the little people that we need to freeze in the dark. I refuse to purchase any Kraft-Heinz product anymore as a result of that and encourage others to do the same.

I’ve never used a Penny marketed spice in the past and certainly don’t see that in the future either.


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Bill Penzey is a raging libtard.

Give your money to his sister who runs The Spice House who has acknowledged that he’s an idiot for shitting on half his customer base. She’s stated she’s not making anything political about selling spices and seasonings and anyone’s money is good to her.


 
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He doesn't actually mention any details....just generalities.



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What a delusional piece of diatribe.

I like to make my own BBQ rubs so I have quite the spice pantry (ie I spend $$$ on spices). I've known for years they were leftist idiots so I haven't given them a dime. Fuck 'em.



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We used to but a LOT of Penzeys Spices, at least up until Bill Penzey showed his ass! And just like that, we didn't anymore!


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There used to be one in Des Moines, COVID killed it, they were super restrictive COVID theater there. Now there isn't one in the whole state of Iowa, which generally leans right collectively. Wife used to go there all the time, I never saw what the big deal was. The political grandstanding is news to me, thanks for bringing it to my attention.
 
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