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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
So John McCain was illegitimate in 2008 too? ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Member |
A "natural born citizen" does not mean someone born in the United States. It means someone who is a US citizen at birth - EITHER by being born in the United States, OR by being born with a parent who is a US citizen. | |||
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Muzzle flash aficionado |
Not necessarily. The laws pertaining to assumption of citizenship from parents have a number of rules, some of which involve the age of the mother and how long prior to the birth she had been in residence in the USA--there is considerable doubt that she met the requirements of the law to pass on her citizenship. Obama's father of record never was a US citizen (but there are those who believe that he did have a real US citizen father, just not the person listed on his "birth certificate"). Or, as many of us believe the definition is, that BOTH parents were US citizens at the birth. flashguy Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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half-genius, half-wit |
Dijja notice the wink? Thought not. tac | |||
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Do you get wafers with it? ____________________ | |||
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אַרְיֵה |
Really? Are you saying that if both parents are U.S. citizens who might be outside of the U.S., maybe for military service, or just traveling for any reason, their child who is born outside of the U.S. can not be president? I do not think that is correct. הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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Member |
Saw what you did there, sir ! | |||
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Freethinker |
When the Constitution was drafted no one was concerned whether the child of a diplomat or soldier on occupation duty outside the U.S. could become President. I’m pretty sure, therefore, that their intent was that the President himself would have been born in one of the United States. I spent a number of my childhood years attending school in France where my father was stationed in the Army, and many of my classmates had been born in places like France, Germany, or Japan. By the early 1960s some of them were resentful of the fact that they couldn’t become President because of the Constitutional provisions even though they had been born to U.S. citizens serving abroad. I don’t have the time or inclination to research the question of what the interpretation of the Constitution is today, but that’s what it was in my lifetime. “I can’t give you brains, but I can give you a diploma.” — The Wizard of Oz This life is a drill. It is only a drill. If it had been a real life, you would have been given instructions about where to go and what to do. | |||
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Unapologetic Old School Curmudgeon |
Army bases and embassies are considered US soil, he was born at a naval base I believe so that counts as being born in US soil Don't weep for the stupid, or you will be crying all day | |||
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Member |
Why even mention the turd? He's trying to be relevant when he's not. ____________________________________________________ The butcher with the sharpest knife has the warmest heart. | |||
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Oriental Redneck |
Needs repeating. Q | |||
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Big Stack |
At some point, I'd almost expect Obama to "admit" he's Kenyan (whether true or not) just to fuck with the birthers. | |||
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Muzzle flash aficionado |
I think you'll find that the chief concern of the Founders was that the President not have "dual citizenship" and thereby allegiance to any country but ours. By putting the "natural born citizen" requirement (which everyone back then recognized as having both parents be citizens, thus no duality) they hoped to insure that future Presidents would only be loyal to the US. flashguy Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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