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Wow, just received a letter in the mail with an official document having to do with emissions testing on my car. Took a while to figure it out as I suspected something strange as I had not had the car inspected.

After some research, it turns out that they now have the capability to do an emissions test on your car while you are driving it along the road.

Did a little research, and it seems they place an orange cone along the road (I95 in my case) which captures your emissions data, Vehicle ID, etc. Once they have all that, they send you a form where you can pay your tax for the emissions on-line.

Used to be I had to go to a shop, stand around for 3/4-1 hour while they did it.

Now they do it at highway speed.

Told my grandson about it and he got all pissy about gubbermint interference in our private lives. (like that was new).

Anyway, for what it is worth, I would much rather do it this way.


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They have done it remotely in Colorado for years. It doesn’t affect me because of where I live, but they usually place the sensors in locations where they’re not visible on the approach, and it’s not possible to avoid them when they’re seen, like on access ramps. I can’t help but wonder if there isn’t an app or something else that people can feed into to alert drivers as to their locations.




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NOVA has emissions regulations?



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NOVA has emissions regulations?


This was my thought. I know they do yearly inspections but not emissions.


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Yep. If you have newer car they plug into your ODBII if it's older they hook up a thingy to your tailpipes. I had a couple cars that wouldn't pass emmissions so I changed their garaged location to my mom's place in Hampton.



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Yep. If you have newer car they plug into your ODBII if it's older they hook up a thingy to your tailpipes. I had a couple cars that wouldn't pass emmissions so I changed their garaged location to my mom's place in Hampton.


Maryland does the OBDII thing also. I have a car you have to remove a piece of plastic to access the OBDII. On this car, the tec always calls a supervisor he types something into the computer and I pass.

Never have they connect the device to my car. Either they don't know how or they are afraid of breaking something. The cover comes off easy but can be a major pain to put back on.


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Yep. If you have newer car they plug into your ODBII if it's older they hook up a thingy to your tailpipes. I had a couple cars that wouldn't pass emmissions so I changed their garaged location to my mom's place in Hampton.


Maryland does the OBDII thing also. I have a car you have to remove a piece of plastic to access the OBDII. On this car, the tec always calls a supervisor he types something into the computer and I pass.

Never have they connect the device to my car. Either they don't know how or they are afraid of breaking something. The cover comes off easy but can be a major pain to put back on.


BTDT. My work vehicle is registered in MD, I hate going there. I have a GPS/fleet Management thing that plugs into my ODBII and tattles on me if I go over 65 or texts me when I need oil changes. Both times I've gone they were perplexed and didn't plug it back in.



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I got my first OBDII car in 2002. At that time in NoVA, they still did the sniff test. Passed with flying colors. Once they started with the OBDII stuff, because my car was 1996, the first year of OBDII, there were sometimes issues. The reset procedure, when the readiness monitors were not "ready," was brutal. It was just about impossible to do on a public road without breaking a lot of laws. But I did it. Had to do it twice in AZ too. Royal pain in the ass and it had nothing whatsoever to do with what actually came out of the tailpipe.
 
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They had remote emissions testing like you described here in MO about 10 years ago, or, you could go to a State owned facility.

A few years later all that "went away" and now you can have both the safety and emission testing at most service gas stations/repair shops, etc.

Never understood why the changes.
 
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Wow, just received a letter in the mail with an official document having to do with emissions testing on my car. Took a while to figure it out as I suspected something strange as I had not had the car inspected.

After some research, it turns out that they now have the capability to do an emissions test on your car while you are driving it along the road.

Did a little research, and it seems they place an orange cone along the road (I95 in my case) which captures your emissions data, Vehicle ID, etc. Once they have all that, they send you a form where you can pay your tax for the emissions on-line.

Used to be I had to go to a shop, stand around for 3/4-1 hour while they did it.

Now they do it at highway speed.

Told my grandson about it and he got all pissy about gubbermint interference in our private lives. (like that was new).

Anyway, for what it is worth, I would much rather do it this way.


So how does this work?

Are you saying a device on the side of the road communicates with your cars engine emmission system via radio waves and it does it as you roll by?? What data can they obtain with that short an interval?

Some of these thread post are confusing what your saying with the old process of stopping and communicating via a hard wire interface.
 
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Originally posted by Elk Hunter:
Wow, just received a letter in the mail with an official document having to do with emissions testing on my car. Took a while to figure it out as I suspected something strange as I had not had the car inspected.

After some research, it turns out that they now have the capability to do an emissions test on your car while you are driving it along the road.

Did a little research, and it seems they place an orange cone along the road (I95 in my case) which captures your emissions data, Vehicle ID, etc. Once they have all that, they send you a form where you can pay your tax for the emissions on-line.

Used to be I had to go to a shop, stand around for 3/4-1 hour while they did it.

Now they do it at highway speed.

Told my grandson about it and he got all pissy about gubbermint interference in our private lives. (like that was new).

Anyway, for what it is worth, I would much rather do it this way.


So how does this work?

Are you saying a device on the side of the road communicates with your cars engine emmission system via radio waves and it does it as you roll by?? What data can they obtain with that short an interval?

Some of these thread post are confusing what your saying with the old process of stopping and communicating via a hard wire interface.


You're not alone. I'm not really clear what is going on here with testing your emissions as you drive past a sensor.

I have a BlueDriver OBDII diagnostic tool that will do a smog check and tell me if my vehicle would pass an emissions test, but how they do it as described in the OP I'm not getting.

Never in my life have I ever had to worry about emission testing though.


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I actually liked those with my old truck. The engine was tight and when it was tested in a facility it was clean as can be, well below the minimums for emissions, which was pretty awesome for a 20 year old engine. Unfortunately one sensor buried deep in the engine was faulty and sending out bad readings which caused my Check Engine light to come on. That's a fail for emissions test even though 2 different mechanics said it was not affecting the engine at all.

Finding those drive by emissions tests kept me driving until the truck wound up on its back. So, in this case, I suppose, government intrusiveness saved me a bunch of money. Big Grin


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I actually liked those with my old truck. The engine was tight and when it was tested in a facility it was clean as can be, well below the minimums for emissions, which was pretty awesome for a 20 year old engine. Unfortunately one sensor buried deep in the engine was faulty and sending out bad readings which caused my Check Engine light to come on. That's a fail for emissions test even though 2 different mechanics said it was not affecting the engine at all.

Finding those drive by emissions tests kept me driving until the truck wound up on its back. So, in this case, I suppose, government intrusiveness saved me a bunch of money. Big Grin


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I think (could be wrong) there is emissions testing in the counties comprising Nashville and the surrounding area, maybe around Memphis, but Tennessee is generally free from it. Good thing, because my car has had an engine MIL (Malfunction Indicator Lamp) on for almost a year. Red Face It can be a pain because sometimes the MIL comes on for things that don't directly affect emissions, such as brake light or oil pressure switches/sensors or, in my case, the lockup part of the torque converter. The latter is an expensive repair (if you have it done, and a transmission shop is unlikely, at the very least reluctant, to do it without rebuilding the rest of the trans) for a chickenshit light on your dash.
 
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RapidPass?

It's pretty good as long as it reads your license plate. Worked for me last year, didn't this year. OBDII emissions are going away post-VW. They usually set up the stations on freeway on ramps. It's a sniffer box and camera setup.

Your son needs to take a few online law classes about privacy. There is virtually no expectation of privacy outside your vehicle on a public road. Emissions testing is little different than a traffic camera in this case.


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RapidPass?

It's pretty good as long as it reads your license plate. Worked for me last year, didn't this year. OBDII emissions are going away post-VW. They usually set up the stations on freeway on ramps. It's a sniffer box and camera setup.

Your son needs to take a few online law classes about privacy. There is virtually no expectation of privacy outside your vehicle on a public road. Emissions testing is little different than a traffic camera in this case.


It's my grandson, he is 32, and totally convinced that our gubbermint needs major retrofit. As in, start over back to the original constitution and 10 amendments. I don't argue with him over anything, as he is so busy planning his next response that he does not listen well. His mind is made up, don't confuse him with facts.


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"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. "
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https://rapidpassvirginia.com/VaPublic/

What is RAPIDPASS?
RAPIDPASS is the optional on-road emissions inspection program in Northern Virginia. RAPIDPASS allows a motorist to simply drive through an on-road RAPIDPASS system to complete their emissions test. Upon notification of a clean emissions result, motorists can conveniently pay for their emission inspection on-line and proceed with their vehicle registration renewal.


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It's my grandson, he is 32, and totally convinced that our gubbermint needs major retrofit. As in, start over back to the original constitution and 10 amendments. I don't argue with him over anything, as he is so busy planning his next response that he does not listen well. His mind is made up, don't confuse him with facts.

I don’t believe he’s wrong about our gubbermint needing a major retrofit. It probably isn’t happening in our lifetimes though, maybe not in his.
 
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In Dumfries area of Prince William County they would set up on the on ramp of Rt. 234 north bound on ramp to get on 95. Still had to have inspection but at least the emissions was done.
 
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I have lived in Fairfax County for over 20 years and the emissions and safety inspections have been required all that time. So it definitely began before 1995.
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NOVA has emissions regulations?
 
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