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Seems putting them in jail would be defacto free room and board for them, paid by the taxpayers.

Ya... you'd have to make that an even less comfortable option... like hard labor, in the sun, all day on a chain gang.
Or, maybe they would prefer working in one of Bezos' warehouses and NOT being homeless?
If you make homeless uncomfortable enough... it won't be a lifestyle choice for many.



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I live in Seattle and this has nothing to do with the homeless. It's all about how to get liberals hands in Amazon's pockets.

There's all kinds of vultures up here trying to do that in one way or another.

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Amazon, the city’s largest employer, would take the biggest hit.

A semi-rhetorical question: when Amazon books out of there and moves to a city without such ridiculousness, what then?
Isn't Bezo a total liberal. Surprised he hasn’t just bucked up on his own. Wink

Well, leftists are hypocrites you see; he’d have no problem crying foul now that it’s him. Either that, or everyone’s Amazon rates will go up, and he’ll take credit for his “generosity”.




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The media is full of it: Seattle is just trying to "stem the homelessness". Seattle is just trying to fix the problem they created.

Seattle and King Counties Zoning Policies have created a lack of affordable housing.

As Amazon pursues a second headquarters, it battles hometown Seattle over tax to stem homelessness[/quote]
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money...r-AAx5qKB?ocid=ientp


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Posts: 13532 | Location: Bottom of Lake Washington | Registered: March 06, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Shit it passed:

https://abcnews.go.com/Technol...omelessness-55154551

Anyone else want to move to Seattle where you can get free housing, healthcare and food, ALL FOR JUST SAYING YOU'RE HOMELESS.

Prediction: Thousands more "homeless" are heading to Seattle for a nice long summer camping trip.


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The city spent $68 million on homelessness last year, and some said they wanted to see the city prioritize its money better.....



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
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Shit it passed:

https://abcnews.go.com/Technol...omelessness-55154551

Anyone else want to move to Seattle where you can get free housing, healthcare and food, ALL FOR JUST SAYING YOU'RE HOMELESS.

Prediction: Thousands more "homeless" are heading to Seattle for a nice long summer camping trip.


Well good. Now watch Amazon abandon that communist crap hole.

And I imagine there'll be even more homeless now when a great many jobs disappear from Seattle and head elsewhere.

Idiots running the show there. Absolute, juvenile idiots.


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Another inevitable lesson in basic economics is about to be played out in real life - to be ignored by the left and the media.



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Posts: 29408 | Location: In the red hinterlands of Deep Blue VA | Registered: June 29, 2001Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I hope Amazon give Seattle the middle finger and moves out of Seattle. These liberal, progressive, anti American democrats need to get the message that we will not be shaken down and submit to your nonsense. If this is what the democrats want, by all means, please move to Venezuela or Cuba and get the hell out of MY country. Good Riddance to these out of touch democrats and Hilary/Bernie lovers. Maybe we can chip in for car fare to expedite their departure?? I am sick and tired of these people and their nonsense......Just saying.
 
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Amazons statement after the Seattle Mayor signed off on the vote is telling.

IMHO, Amazon’s planned HQ1 Seattle employment apex (that was to remain here separate from HQ2) was reached today and the slide to transition HQ1 folks to ‘elsewhere’ will begin tomorrow. It will take time but it will happen.

Seattle, once again, shot itself in the foot.
 
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I saw on the news earlier where ther were protests in front of Amazon over the weekend. The protestors were calling Amazon “hostage takers” for stating if the tax passed that they would not continue adding jobs.

Seattle is trying hard to be San Francisco.




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State legislature may step in ...

Big business leaves the city/State.
Unemployed with no way to pay the $800k mortgages, increasing the homeless population.

Property values drop. State/county/cities no longer raking in the property taxes.

Sound transit loses out - car tab fees drop as no one pays tabs on their RV 'homes' for the homeless.

State legislature will pass a law making head tax in violation of state constitution.

Head shops do well and Cheetos prices go up.

Pure speculation, of course.



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I can see some unintended consequences to this. The homeless headcout will go up higher than the homeless budget, creating a bigger homeless problem, not a smaller one. Also, the gov't bureaucracy, under the guise of serving the homeless, will serve themselves first, the homeless get the leftover monies; the gov't has more money, the taxpayer has less money.




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... this begins to remind me of that retirement business - a rat and cat farm.

Seattle City - homeless.



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I saw on the news earlier where ther were protests in front of Amazon over the weekend. The protestors were calling Amazon “hostage takers” for stating if the tax passed that they would not continue adding jobs.

Seattle is trying hard to be San Francisco.

Problem is, when the inevitable consequences of their socialism hit, they will ignore/deny any connection between the cause and the effect.




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The Seattle City Council and Mayor Jenny Durkan, idiots all. You can add Governor Inslee to that list as well.

As usual, the taxpayers and businesses are the last ones considered and the first ones taxed, as Mark Robinson so rightly pointed out last month.

To believe "homelessness" is the problem and not a symptom indicates just how confused these idiots are.

I'm beyond tired of the drug-addicted bums and the garbage they leave behind everywhere they go.
To hell with them.
Free housing my ass.
 
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How's Idaho this time of year?
 
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Just wow! Talk about killing the golden goose.

https://www.seattletimes.com/b...seattle-politicians/


To understand how we arrived at the firestorm over the proposed head tax and the city’s largest employer, it’s useful to examine some recent history.

During the Great Recession, after downtown’s keystone employer Washington Mutual collapsed in the largest banking failure in American history, Amazon gave Seattle an unprecedented gift.

The company moved from the old PacMed tower on Beacon Hill to a new innovation district being built in once-seedy South Lake Union by Paul Allen’s Vulcan Real Estate.

In the next few years, Amazon branched out far beyond e-commerce to become a technology giant with a seemingly insatiable appetite for office space, and grew to 45,000 well-paid jobs in the central core. This happened at a time of slow job growth nationally and a historic rise in unstable “gigs” instead of real employment, benefits and a path to upward mobility.

This put Seattle at the headwaters — where executive decisions are made, innovation hatched and the best jobs are positioned — of the one sector in the economy that was growing: tech.

The headquarters was unusual in several aspects. For example, it was in the central city, not a suburban office “park.” Employees could live nearby and walk or bike to work. It was far greener than an employment center dependent on single-occupancy car trips. More high-end companies and research outfits joined the innovation district.

One of the most astonishing aspects of the windfall was the size of the work force. For example, Procter & Gamble, one of the world’s largest consumer product companies, employs only 10,000 in metropolitan Cincinnati, including its downtown headquarters. Salesforce, with its mammoth new skyscraper in San Francisco, employs 7,000.

Amazon’s economic footprint was no less impressive. From 2010 to June 2017, HQ1 brought $3.7 billion in capital investment, $25.7 billion in employee compensation, $43 million paid for employee transit benefits, and 53,000 additional jobs as a direct result of Amazon direct investments. Hundreds of millions of dollars went to the city treasury thanks to construction fees and taxes.

And Seattle got this windfall with no demand for billions in incentives.....



 
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..... The homeless headcout will go up higher than the homeless budget, creating a bigger homeless problem, not a smaller one. ......


Winner winner, chicken dinner

Yes! The homeless go where they can get the best "deal." This is an undeniable fact.


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Just wow! Talk about killing the golden goose.

https://www.seattletimes.com/b...seattle-politicians/....
Amazon’s economic footprint was no less impressive. From 2010 to June 2017, HQ1 brought $3.7 billion in capital investment, $25.7 billion in employee compensation, $43 million paid for employee transit benefits, and 53,000 additional jobs as a direct result of Amazon direct investments. Hundreds of millions of dollars went to the city treasury thanks to construction fees and taxes.

And Seattle got this windfall with no demand for billions in incentives.....


Bingo, bullseye, homerun. This will likely do significant harm to Seattle's economy as Amazon "divests" a lot of business away from Seattle. But the self-serving Seattle politicians will deny it's their own fault.




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