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The Devastator/Exploder

This is an interesting possibility. Perhaps I will carefully scratch some paint and see if there is a primer hiding under it before doing anything else.

Were these cartridges ever in the possession of Chief Matt Brody of Amity Island?

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Originally posted by jer830:
I believe. 45 ACP tracer ammo was meant to be used in Thompson’s or grease guns.

That seems reasonable. Especially grease guns.

The 22 Long Rifle Devastator rounds didn't use a cartridge primer, but rather primer compound either packed in the cavity loose or (maybe) in some sort of capsule. Rather than being crushed between the primer cup and an anvil, they evidently depended on the shock of the impact to set it off. As pictured, though, a primer could be used in larger bullets. (Thanks for those pictures, BTW. I was not familiar with the type of bullets that used actual cartridge primers.)

As I recall, none of the bullets fired in the Reagan assassination attempt actually detonated.

Disposal should not be in your firearms. Who knows what quality these are?

The bullets themselves look familiar to me, the filling doesn't.

But the internet/search engines suck so bad now I'm not having any luck pinning it down.

(Or it's just an old Speer JHP rounded over by being loaded with a seating stem for a round nose bullet in an automated press?)

TM 43-0001-27 (Army Ammunition Data Sheets Small Caliber Ammunition), Chapter 8 (Caliber .45 Cartridges) has a data sheet for the Cartridge, Caliber .45, Tracer, M26, DODAC 1305-A479. The tracer composition was built into the base of the bullet. The bullet jacket's tip is painted red. Bullet weight is 208 gr.

The tracer composition in this bullet is R256. Its composition includes magnesium, strontium nitrate, magnesium carbonate, color intensifiers, retardants, and a synthetic polymer binder.

No in-service introduction date is given.

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Originally posted by 229DAK:
The tracer composition was built into the base of the bullet. The bullet jacket's tip is painted red.

Thank you. Just as I expected.

Wonder if those are some of those CIA bullets where they drilled out the tip and put mercury in and then sealed it up?

Sorry but I am in a good mood today and couldn’t resist posting useless conspiracy crap today

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Originally posted by kg5388:
Wonder if those are some of those CIA bullets where they drilled out the tip and put mercury in and then sealed it up?

Sorry but I am in a good mood today and couldn’t resist posting useless conspiracy crap today

The EXTREME irony is that the gent in question did in fact work as an anylist for said agency.

Update- this is what the bag contains. Several red tips, several small diameter hollow point rounds in a lead round nose similar to said red tips, Remington hollow points, and various brands of ball.



colt_saa seems to have nailed it. When I took a close look at one, I could see a tiny flash of brass coming through the paint. Some light scratching with a thumb tack reveals, I assume, a small pistol primer, unmarked.



Given that the hollow points look identical to the red tips in construction, case variety, and general condition, I’m guessing he was “gifted” them at some point and took them to be something else entirely. I say this because They can find no stock picture of the primer tipped Devastators utilizing a lead round nose bullet.

Mystery solved I suppose. I’d fire the factory ammo but not any of what appear to be lead round nose reloads.

Glock 21….steel plates, have fun!

Those are devastators!!
I had a few boxes back in the 90s.
They will blow a small pine tree down. Seroiously.

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Originally posted by ScreamingCockatoo:
Those are devastators!!
I had a few boxes back in the 90s.
They will blow a small pine tree down. Seroiously.

Do you recall them having a lead round nose like these? I think they might be home rolled

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Originally posted by gearhounds:

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Originally posted by ScreamingCockatoo:
Those are devastators!!
I had a few boxes back in the 90s.
They will blow a small pine tree down. Seroiously.

Do you recall them having a lead round nose like these? I think they might be home rolled

It's rumored I rolled a few with some special clay a few times...