I put a highway tire on my truck figuring it’s 99% highway.

Only problem is the circumferential grooves are the exact right width to pick up gravel from our driveway in Michigan. If not picked up evenly, they throw the balance off. It takes ten minutes with a bent screwdriver to pick the rocks out. I’m going back to AT tires when this set wears out.

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Originally posted by Black92LX:

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Originally posted by maxxpower:
Tires look great, so does the truck!

I have an appointment next week to put a set of boring Michelin LTX M/S's on my Tundra but you have me rethinking that.....

If you don’t go off-road much you are loosing quite a bit by getting these compared to the Michelins.
Unless you just have to have the look.

Loving the tires but if I had strictly a highway truck I doubt I would have these.

That's sort of where I am on my Explorer, which will likely need tires in a few months.

Michelin doesn't offer the LTX AT in my size, so I'm down to:
Falken Wildpeak
Michelin Defender LTX MS2
Michelin Pilot Sport AS4

Pretty wide range of use purpose on those.
The Falkens are a fair bit cheaper, but also have a shorter estimated life, compared to the Michelins.

LTX will go the longest & are currently where I'm leaning. But they were also nearly $1400 on my Expedition.

The AS4, assuming they're equivalent to the AS3+ we had on our Flex, are a great all around option, very grippy & worked well in all climates I had it [Houston humid inferno & monsoons, Flagstaff at 28*, lots of long road trips]

The Falkens are my odd man out, as I've only had Falkens on small cars in an all-season tire, when on a tight budget.

Those look great! Congrats.

I've always stuck with my BFG KO2's. Quietest off road tire I've ever used

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Originally posted by trapper189:
I put a highway tire on my truck figuring it’s 99% highway.

Only problem is the circumferential grooves are the exact right width to pick up gravel from our driveway in Michigan. If not picked up evenly, they throw the balance off. It takes ten minutes with a bent screwdriver to pick the rocks out. I’m going back to AT tires when this set wears out.

Good point! I am on a ton of gravel. The Wildpeaks and Michelins I had prior to were crazy rock chuckers.
I’d get off a gravel road and for a 1/4 you could just hear the gravel slinging off.

These the tread voids are so much bigger barely pick any gravel up.

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Originally posted by Black92LX:

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Originally posted by maxxpower:
Tires look great, so does the truck!

I have an appointment next week to put a set of boring Michelin LTX M/S's on my Tundra but you have me rethinking that.....

If you don’t go off-road much you are loosing quite a bit by getting these compared to the Michelins.
Unless you just have to have the look.

Loving the tires but if I had strictly a highway truck I doubt I would have these.

That's sort of where I am on my Explorer, which will likely need tires in a few months.

Michelin doesn't offer the LTX AT in my size, so I'm down to:
Falken Wildpeak
Michelin Defender LTX MS2
Michelin Pilot Sport AS4

Pretty wide range of use purpose on those.
The Falkens are a fair bit cheaper, but also have a shorter estimated life, compared to the Michelins.

LTX will go the longest & are currently where I'm leaning. But they were also nearly $1400 on my Expedition.

The AS4, assuming they're equivalent to the AS3+ we had on our Flex, are a great all around option, very grippy & worked well in all climates I had it [Houston humid inferno & monsoons, Flagstaff at 28*, lots of long road trips]

The Falkens are my odd man out, as I've only had Falkens on small cars in an all-season tire, when on a tight budget.

If the Michelin Cross Climate is available in your size give them a look too.
Put them on Mom and Granny’s Explorer and Equinox. Great tire.

Check weights too Wildpeaks tend to be very heavy

I am about a month in and am still loving these tires.
Had a bit of rain and they did great. Traction was great and had to try to break them loose.

Drove to the Bengals game Sunday nights so about 4.5 hours of interstate driving and they are super smooth and the road noise which is a bit of a hum on the highway pretty much blends away.

I had new TPMS sensors put in with these wheels since the old ones were dead.
They are some off brand but seem to be working.
Only issue is I use an OBDLink MX+ with their OBDLink app to monitor everything on my truck.
OBDLink is reading 14.5PSI high across all the sensors.
Not a huge deal as I just subtract 14.5 from the reading but would like it to be correct.
Not sure if it is the sensors or my OBDLink app.

Old sensors were dead so never had them linked and not sure.

I have the 2014 Tundra which has no way to actually read the pressures. Just the light comes
On when they are out of range.

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Originally posted by Black92LX:
Check weights too Wildpeaks tend to be very heavy

No kidding

255/55-20 size

LTX: 34lbs each
AS4: 31lbs each
Wildpeak: 42lbs

BFG Trail Terrain AT, about the same, 1lb heavier than the Falken

What accounts for the large weight difference in the same size tire?

Super cool looking side lugs and tread depth.

Pilot AS4 31lbs 10/32”
LTX M/S 34lbs 10.5/32”
Wildpeak 42lbs 11/32”
Trail T/A 43lbs 12/32”

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Super cool looking side lugs and tread depth.

Pilot AS4 31lbs 10/32”
LTX M/S 34lbs 10.5/32”
Wildpeak 42lbs 11/32”
Trail T/A 43lbs 12/32”

Also the different tread/rubber compounds manufacturers use.
They’re sidewall construction. The amount of tread blocks, and then different load rated tires of the same size.

Have about 3k miles on these things and am absolutely loving them!
We got our first round of good snow this winter so my first experience with these tires in the snow is great!
Very solid footing. I have not had to use 4wd yet. I played around in 2wd and they spun a bit if I was not feathering the pedal.
These Tundras have a craptastic Electronic Limited Slip rear end not true LSD the computer applies the rear brakes on the side that is slipping. Honestly the worst thing about these trucks they should have a true LSD.
While the electronic LSD works it is very loud when the brakes are actuating and you actually have to hit a button to activate.

I’d like to get a true LSD installed but the install is pretty involved and far beyond my abilities so the $1k in labor alone is tough.

But these tires are great!!!

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Originally posted by marksman41:
What accounts for the large weight difference in the same size tire?

A lot also depends on the load rating of the tire. An E rating typically recommended for 3/4 and 1 ton trucks is going to be a lot heavier than a C rating that comes on some 1/2 tons. Typically it's stouter construction with stiffer sidewalls.

I ran E rated tires on my F-150 for the heavier sidewalls. Reason being on photography trips and rough dirt/gravel highways a long ways from nowhere here in Alaska, the heavier constructions gave me a lot of comfort from punctures and ripped sidewalls.

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So I went with Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/Ts in 285/70/17 (33x11.5) on Summit Off-road Stryker wheels. The wheels are 17x9 with a 0 offset.
I left 275/60/20 (33x10.5) Michelin LTX A/T2s on factory 20x8 wheels.
The Michelin tires are a fantastic highway tire with pretty decent MILD off-roading traction and Outstanding traction on pavement in wet and snow.

Got a screw right where the sidewall meets the tread so not one I am good with riding on a plug. Was planning to do new wheels and tires next year because I wanted to drop to 17s for more sidewall and 17” tires are a fair amount cheaper. But Mr screw sped up my plans. This wheel and color combination was my 3rd choice but they had it in stock and I am liking the combo far more than I thought and they were on sale!!

So got them mounted and balanced today!

So far the first impression of these tires is excellent. Granted I gained 1.5” of sidewall but the truck has a much smoother ride than before and it was not unsmooth at all. It rained last night but not today and have yet to be able to break these tires loose from a start on the damp pavement. We’ll see when I get them in the actual rain but they have tons of siping so hopefully they are good.

Biggest worry was noise being that these tires are pretty aggressive. Around town driving can’t really tell much difference.
Hit 50mph and you know you longer have the Michelins on the ground. It’s not bad at all 2 notches up on the radio with the windows up and you are back to where you were. With the windows down it is more noticeable.
I believe one will just get used to it. I have not put the center caps on yet.
My kiddos school has a pretty slick STEAM Lab and have a really nice 3d Scanner and a couple of cool printers. So going to make some custom ones that I think may look better.
So far I am quite happy. I’ll keep this thread updated like I did with the Falken Wildpeaks a few years back.
Next projects are Rock Sliders, Limited Slip Differential, and a winch

That's a pretty sweet looking setup. I have a 2022 Sequoia I'm thinking I'd like to upgrade to a set of these wheels when I grind away my stock tires. A couple questions - any issues with rubbing? The wider wheels plus the 0 offset make me worry about clearance - I believe stock is something like +60mm. I believe your Tundra and my Sequoia share the same front end. Do you have a lift or is it stock height? Thanks!

Falcon Leveling system Just a hair over 2” in the front and 5/8” added in the rear.
Rubbed just slightly on the front bumper. A very small amount a material needs to be trimmed off or use a bumper shim.
I opted to shim the bumper. Super easy install. It is my understanding these shims will work with the Sequoia as well as the bumper mounts in the same fashion. One can add nuts or washers but I prefer the plate as it keeps the impact area the same.
https://www.shopcoachbuilder.c...ront-bumper-shim-kit

The front mudflap needs to be trimmer slightly. Full lock to the right in reverse it runs slightly. I have not bothered to do that yet. As I rarely am at full lock in reverse to worry about it.

I am still very very happy with these tires in all weather!

Really need to get rid of my wife’s Suburban. Looking to getting her a newer (last generation Sequoia).
Which may include selling my truck and getting me an LS430 and supercharging it.
I just sold my factory wheels and tires which I should have held onto but ohh well.

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Originally posted by Black92LX:
Falcon Leveling system Just a hair over 2” in the front and 5/8” added in the rear.
Rubbed just slightly on the front bumper. A very small amount a material needs to be trimmed off or use a bumper shim.
I opted to shim the bumper. Super easy install. It is my understanding these shims will work with the Sequoia as well as the bumper mounts in the same fashion. One can add nuts or washers but I prefer the plate as it keeps the impact area the same.
https://www.shopcoachbuilder.c...ront-bumper-shim-kit

The front mudflap needs to be trimmer slightly. Full lock to the right in reverse it runs slightly. I have not bothered to do that yet. As I rarely am at full lock in reverse to worry about it.

I am still very very happy with these tires in all weather!

Really need to get rid of my wife’s Suburban. Looking to getting her a newer (last generation Sequoia).
Which may include selling my truck and getting me an LS430 and supercharging it.
I just sold my factory wheels and tires which I should have held onto but ohh well.

I have a Dobinson's suspension lift at 1.75", and I installed color matched fender flares so my bumper is now connected to the fenders. My usual tire, KO2s, in that size are the same as your Thompsons at 32.8" in diameter. I'm not sure if the tread blocks are different enough at the edges to make a difference in rubbing. I think I'd be pretty close. Can you take a front shot? Do your tires hang out past the wheel openings?

I'm a big fan of the Sequoia. My son now drives my 2005, and the changeover to the V6 twin turbo in 2023 forced my hand in 2021 to pick up the last model year, 2022 with the 5.7 V8. Turbos give me reservations about long term reliability. Buy that 2nd gen Sequoia and if you maintain it well, you'll have that thing forever.

OLD Thread resurrection:

Black, still enjoying the Boss Bajas?

I think I’m gonna go with some 295/70R18 on the F350 when I replace my tires.

Done any more snow driving?

I’m
Down to these and the AT/4 Wildpeaks.

These tires are phenomenal!!!!!! Rain, snow, mud dry pavement they are great.
They still look brand new and have tons of tread left.
I had Falken Wildpeak AT3s and these things blow those out of the water in all driving conditions.

I can’t recommend these enough.

I had looked at these tires for replacement on my Toyota 4Runner. However, my size only comes in a 10 ply. That's to stiff for a daily driver.

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I had looked at these tires for replacement on my Toyota 4Runner.

For my Toyota 4Runner I replaced some Coopers with the Maxxis RAZR AT.
For more highway type driving there's the Bravo Series AT-771, which is also an All Terrain tire.
I had never had a Maxxis tire before but I like them.

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Had these a little over 2 years now and probably 20-25k miles on them. I have not been as good about rotating these as I should. I need to rotate them probably every 5000-7500 miles. I have rotated them 3 times and had them rebalanced once because I lost some weights and had it aligned once. Also have a few plugs as I have hit some nails here and there.
Tires still look great, tons of tread left, I am on gravel ALOT and my treads are still smooth with lots of siping and no chunks.
Traction is still great in all weather however I will say in the rain I can make them break loose much easier if I try compared to when they were new.
If I don’t smash the gas in the rain grip is great.

The reason I wanted to do an update today is because we have gotten the most snow we have had since I got them.
So far we have had one or two inches with a bunch of ice and I don’t go play in the ice. And the snow was light enough I never needed to use 2wd. However since yesterday we have had some great snow. Probably about 6 or so inches at the moment with just a little ice crunch on the top.
The youngest boy and I went blasting all over this morning drove all around for fun before the roads were plowed, grabbed some Waffle House, went home and shoveled the neighbors driveway, with snow still coming down and a little ice covering.
The boy wanted to go to Mass and the weather was getting a little more icy. But we decided to go back out enjoyed a Mass with just a few other people an went driving all around again.

2wd worked alright but the backend kept wanting to creep and had to keep it super slow. I think if this truck had a mechanical limited slip differential O would have been able to keep it in 2wd. Tossed it in 4wd and was stable and steady as could be.
These tires performed amazingly in the snow.
I can’t say enough good things about these tires.

Only kind of negative is they are louder than when I got them. While they are louder they are not obnoxious like some tires. Knowing these are an aggressive AT tire the noise is not bad and certainly not a deal breaker on buying them again.

I’d been dabbling with the idea of getting an F250 but this truck is just excellent in all weather and a joy to drive.

Nice update, glad they aren’t chunking.

The thing with an open differential is that the non-slipping tire is using all of the traction it has to keep the rear of the vehicle where it is. With an LSD or locked differential, you start eating into the available traction to move the vehicle forward and it has less traction to keep the rear of the vehicle where it is. Locking axles and transfer cases are great for rock crawling, but not so much for snow and ice.

The real fun begins when you have both axles and the transfer case locked, you let off the gas, and engine braking exceeds available traction. If you are lucky, it’s like being on the Tilt-o-Whirl at the county fair.