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** Updated Post Below ** Trouble has been afoot here in Missouri within the Republican ranks, and now it is causing issues as it relates to voting for Trump. I was excited to attend my first state convention. As the vice-chair of my county's Republican Central Committee I traveled all the way across the state, spent my money on a hotel room, and took a few days off from work to elect a slate of delegates that would represent the state of Missouri on the national stage, and to vote on proposed changes to Missouri's GOP platform. It was trouble from the beginning when it became obvious that those in charge of the convention (state level GOP) had completely botched the credentialing process. I was not only a "victim" of these errors, but I was used by name as an example by those who wanted to overturn the results of the convention. Roughly 1,000 representatives from across the state voted on these issues. It did not go the way some wanted it to go, and as a result they contested the entire convention on the basis of the errors that they themselves were responsible for. In turn the national GOP decided to toss those elected to represent our state, and to allow them to be replaced by those chosen by the same people who created the problem to begin with. That decision has now been challenged. In the end we may have Missourians at the National Convention, and maybe we won't. And if we do, maybe it will be those who were voted to be there, or maybe they will be those selected by the State GOP which botched the convention. You can read more here: https://www.thegatewaypundit.c...s-challenge-corrupt/This message has been edited. Last edited by: a1abdj, | ||
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WTF y'all doing over there?  __________________________________ NRA Benefactor I lost all my weapons in a boating, umm, accident. http://www.aufamily.com/forums/ | |||
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Optimistic Cynic |
Politics is a dirty game, and those who make up their dirty rules are likely to prevail. Sad to see it happening in Mo. as it has so many times here in VA. As the OP has learned it is often futile to "get involved" when those at the top consider their positions, power, and privileges to be more important than the people they profess to represent. They are swamp dwellers, pure and simple. How the swamp is to be drained, and dried, I have no idea, but a bright sun shining from overhead cannot hurt. | |||
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It's not just over there, it's here (WA) too. The Republican committee put this character Semi Bird up for gov. and over rode the process and made him the nominee by acclamation. As of now, that decision has been over ridden and there will be a primary with this ass clown as one of two running for the nomination. The opponent is a three term sheriff from Seattle which says much about his popularity across the aisle. Our poster boy is an ex-Marine, And I use the term thoughtfully, courtmartialed and convicted while in service, later convicted for theft of money from his father, Given a letter of reprimand by a General officer for stolen valor as a soldier in Iraq, removed from office of the only political position he's ever held, school board director, lies and then swears to it then lies about having said what's on the tape. Honest to Pete, Repubs can't get out of their own way if they have a 2 day head-start, green lights forever and a rocket sled. _______________________ | |||
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Here he is: הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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A guy came out of Casey's with red T-shirt on A picture of Donald was on the front and the backside read I am voting for a felon. Safety, Situational Awareness and proficiency. Neck Ties, Hats and ammo brass, Never ,ever touch'em w/o asking first | |||
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I heard the establishment GOP delay the vote for some five hours and the state platform and after the vote. People began to leave all planned by the establishment. After they knew there were enough who had left and they had been out voted by the grass roots, they called for a quorum count knowing there was not a quorum. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ | |||
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"Semi Bird"? What kind of name is that? | |||
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His parents must have been a couple of loons. _______________________________________________________________________________________ | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
Semi/Semis appears to be the Samoan version of the name "James". His real first name is Misipati, which is also a Samoan name. He's part-Samoan, on his father's side. | |||
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First of all, rest assured, all delegates are pledged to Voting For Trump ... which was actually something NOT DONE at the MO State convention.
Same here. a1abdj, is right... the MO Convention was a clusterfuck, right from the beginning. The credentialing process was not well organized. I'll go into a little bit of the "why": One of the MOGOP employees was supposed to be the computer guy for the event. His grandfather was in hospice and they "pulled the plug" on him that Friday before the Saturday convention. Nick Myers told him to go be with his grandfather and family for the death. Well, it turns out that there was no uniform process devised. Sheets of delegate names were coming in from various counties and were input and then sorted alphabetically for ease in checking people in. The big problem there is that alternates become delegates in the order listed, not in alphabetical order. Also, the delegates are divided both by Congressional District and by County. There were a lot of delegates who wanted to make a lot of noise at the CD convention, but then didn't show at the State convention. In order to replace a delegate with an alternate, the alternate had to be both from the same Congressional District and from the same County. The data wasn't organized that way. Ultimately, Leann Greene (credentials chair) takes responsibility for that even though I know she worked very hard at trying to organize it. Marty Bennett should have been brought in to organize it as he ran the computer program for CD2 which was organized. Nevertheless, you have to hand it to Bill Eigel and Sophia Shore because they managed to get a lot of people there. They swept the delegates awarded at the CD2 convention and they could have had most of the delegates at the State convention too. But instead of following the rules, as written, they decided they wanted to change the rules and go for everything. Chris Howard tried to warn them, that this put the convention in jeopardy. https://www.ksdk.com/video/new...9b-82ac-967eaeb5fd57 "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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That may be the case, but it sure seems as if some of them aren't really big Trump supporters. I've seen several screen shots showing that some of the "new" delegates have said things that wouldn't have been said by "Trump supporters". Things like this:  More information here: https://shieldmaidensofmo.subs...g&triedRedirect=true
That's up for debate from what I'm hearing, but we don't have to go anywhere near that far because that had nothing to do with the decision made by the contests committee:
The ONLY issue used to justify the tossing of the duly elected delegates was the credentialing process, and that process was controlled 100% by the same party(ies) who have now hand selected the replacement delegates. I am not "taking sides" with the individual persons involved as I know and respect people from both sides of that isle. I am however taking sides with the process, as the will of the people is clearly being ignored here. Delegates in attendance were selected by those in their communities to represent their beliefs. The votes by those delegates at the convention were overwhelmingly clear and obvious. One side won and the other lost, fair and square. Now the loosing side is subverting the will of the residents of Missouri. https://missouriindependent.co...R5BNOPPLEKahhH7PNjeg | |||
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It wasn't the Missouri Republican Party that challenged the convention. It was two individuals. See the last page of the Report and Recommendations, page 11. Missouri Republican Party did not contest any part of the state convention. The replacement slate that the 16 member executive committee of the Missouri Republican Party was required to submit with under RNC rule 18 contained members of every slate presented to the nominations committee at the state convention. The RNC challenges committee instructed the MOGOP to work towards unity. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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That's correct. Two individuals who also happen to be on the replacement slate.
Difficult to do when one side of the party is subverting the democratic process at the expense of the other side. In fact, this will cause the party to take sides one against the other. It's almost as if it was all planned. Did the State Chair withdraw himself and his slate from consideration in order to place them later based on a challenge from events he himself created? Sure seems that way to many people, including one of Trump's lawyers.  | |||
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He's half-cocked. "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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Well, the shenanigans have been put to rest. The National Convention’s Credentials Committee had a hearing today and determined that the vote of the people will stand. https://missouriindependent.co...t-center-of-dispute/
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Well, there you go... Frank, I'm happy for you. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Don't be happy for me, as I have no skin in that game. However, when I see with my own eyes the how those who had a vote voted, and then to see that overturned based on a technicality that the complainants themselves created.... If somebody will play games like that in their own in-house election, what other games will they play? You can't preach "election integrity" and then screw around like this. It's a bad look for several involved. | |||
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