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Tulsa OK: CCW holder stops female shooter at shopping center
March 28, 2020, 03:29 PM
SigmundTulsa OK: CCW holder stops female shooter at shopping center
https://www.tulsaworld.com/new...91-2a286e191bd7.htmlConcealed carry permit holder fatally shoots armed woman outside north Tulsa shopping centerBy Stetson Payne
Tulsa World 15 hrs ago
A concealed carry permit holder fatally shot a woman outside a north Tulsa shopping center Friday evening after she reportedly opened fire on customers.
Tulsa Police responded about 6:30 p.m. Friday to the 5300 block of North Peoria Avenue for a reported shooting. A woman was found dead at the scene, according to a news release. She has not been identified as of Friday night.
A man with a concealed carry permit reportedly told arriving officers that he shot the woman after she started shooting at customers outside the shopping center.
Video reportedly showed the woman was involved in an earlier altercation in the parking lot. The woman left the shopping center and returned about three minutes later, when she pulled a gun and opened fire, according to the news release.
The concealed carry permit holder reportedly returned fire and was later questioned and released at the department's detective division.
The shooting is Tulsa's 13th homicide of 2020.
March 28, 2020, 03:30 PM
12131Excellent!
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March 28, 2020, 03:34 PM
dlc444quote:
The shooting is Tulsa's 13th homicide of 2020.
Um.... Homicide? Sounds like a good shoot to me
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It seems to me that any law that is not enforced and can't be enforced weakens all other laws.
March 28, 2020, 03:35 PM
ensigmaticquote:
Originally posted by 12131:
Excellent!
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Originally posted by dlc444:
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The shooting is Tulsa's 13th homicide of 2020.
Um.... Homicide? Sounds like a good shoot to me
It's still a homicide. Homicide ≠ murder.
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sigfreund“Homicide” is simply one of the common five “manners” of death, and means the killing of one person by another. It’s not automatically a crime.
The other manners of death in must jurisdictions are suicide, natural, accidental, and undetermined.
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I can tell at sight a Chassepot rifle from a javelin. March 28, 2020, 04:04 PM
SevenPlusOnequote:
5300 block of North Peoria
I wouldn't go to this part of town without a machine gun team.
"Ninja kick the damn rabbit" March 28, 2020, 04:05 PM
az4783054It would likely be determined by prosecutors to be a Justified Homicide. Read online the OK Revised Statutes for definitions of Justification.
March 28, 2020, 04:09 PM
sgalczynquote:
Originally posted by sigfreund:
“Homicide” is simply one of the common five “manners” of death, and means the killing of one person by another. It’s not automatically a crime.
The other manners of death in must jurisdictions are suicide, natural, accidental, and undetermined.
"JUSTIFIED" should be a category.
"No matter where you go - there you are"
March 28, 2020, 04:12 PM
az4783054Justification is determined by prosecutors and/or a jury, not the medical examiner who determines manner of death.
March 28, 2020, 04:31 PM
Sig2340quote:
Originally posted by sigfreund:
The other manners of death in must jurisdictions are suicide, natural, accidental, and undetermined.
No category for "Here, hold my beer...."?
Or does that fall under "natural" as an expected part of evolution?
Nice is overrated
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March 28, 2020, 04:40 PM
RogueJSKThat would generally fall under accidental.
March 28, 2020, 04:43 PM
Blackmorequote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
That would generally fall under accidental.
I prefer the term misadventure.
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March 28, 2020, 04:46 PM
hberttmankquote:
Originally posted by SevenPlusOne:
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5300 block of North Peoria
I wouldn't go to this part of town without a machine gun team.
This. North Tulsa is a place to stay away from.
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Marlin FanAnother happy ending!
March 29, 2020, 12:44 AM
jarcherInteresting that it was a woman shooter.
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March 29, 2020, 05:36 AM
arfmelFortunately the deceased woman shooter evidently wasn’t a very skilled marks
man person.
March 29, 2020, 06:02 AM
gearhoundsAnother statistic of a gun saving lives that will be overlooked in favor of the agenda that they only take them. I’d be interested in learning more about the “altercation” that led to the shooting.
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njautoThe First 48 has been following Tulsa PD Homicide for years. That place must have a steady clientele for them..
March 29, 2020, 10:52 AM
nhtagmemberA good story with a happy ending. Good way to start a Sunday.
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March 29, 2020, 12:58 PM
jarcherquote:
Originally posted by nhtagmember:
A good story with a happy ending. Good way to start a Sunday.
It is not a good story and it did not have a happy ending. While it is certainly good that more lives were not lost, a life was still lost.
Further, the CCW carrier will have to come to terms with the fact that he took a life, the other shoppers nd store employees will be traumatized for some time to come, the woman who is now dead probably has some family and was probably not a hardened criminal but rather someone with mental health problems.
We in the firearms community tend to celebrate these incidents. It does not reflect well on us.
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"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
Edmund Burke, 1729 - 1797