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consider Mazda also I get 35-37 on the highway with their 2.5L ------------------------------------------ Proverbs 27:17 - As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. | |||
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Look at the Subaru Impreza. Good mpg. All-wheel drive. Good crash protection. Or, for more fun, try a BRZ. Mine is averaging 30.3 around town and closer to 40 on the highway. Bruce "The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams “It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free." -Niccolo Machiavelli The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken | |||
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I am tall and hated a rental Cruze I had.This message has been edited. Last edited by: jhe888, The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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A Honda Civic Type-R seems like it could be fun. | |||
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If you're buying used. It really is hard to beat a diesel volkswagon. Other than that I'd stick with a corolla or civic. | |||
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Why when discussing fuel mileage, diesel owner's will state that their XXX gets YY miles to the gallon? So what? It's burning diesel fuel, which isn't gasoline, so don't conflate the two. It would be better if you would state that "My diesel gets XX miles per $10 worth of fuel." At least then the two could be compared. A diesel that gets 50mpg has the same fuel cost as a gas vehicle that gets 45mpg, before you consider the other added diesel expenses. There's a lot of gasoline cars near that 45mpg mark nowadays. Demand not that events should happen as you wish; but wish them to happen as they do happen, and you will go on well. -Epictetus | |||
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That is true, but not in the "beater" category. Volkswagon has been making diesel cars getting 50 mpg since the 70's. And if it's a non mechanical diesel, you can run it on half used drain oil. A buddy of mine has been running his old 7.3 powerstroke F250 on 50% used engine oil, without doing anything to the oil before pouring it into his fuel tank for 7 years. The truck actually is more powerful on the drain oil and has no visible smoke and much quieter at idle. He's a marine diesel mechanic. | |||
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New isn’t a consideration. I’m looking for fuel economy and reliability. Beater class. I’d forgotten about Mazda. So far I’m not seeing any mention of specific years or engines to avoid. | |||
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The low compression, port injected engines of the late 90's to mid 2000's are hard to beat, no matter who built it. It was the perfect time of high reliability before the CAFE standards screwed everybody. A well maintained late 90's Civic or similar will run nearly forever. Avoid any direct injected gasoline engine. They're probably too new to be in the beater category anyway, but I'd like to see how quickly their intake valves clog after those engines develop a little blow-by. I bet you won't ever see 300K GDI engines. Demand not that events should happen as you wish; but wish them to happen as they do happen, and you will go on well. -Epictetus | |||
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From your list, Civic or Corolla. Good luck finding one, both are in demand. ______________________________________________ Life is short. It’s shorter with the wrong gun… | |||
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Civics are easy to work on yourself, you'll have a hard time killing one. | |||
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What do you mean? Do you say that because diesel fuel is more expensive than gasoline where you live? Around here diesel used to be a lot cheaper than gasoline... but now they are roughly equal in price/gallon. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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I’ll chime in here on the diesel front. I have an Audi Q7 that had a gen 2 motor that had the .gov fix. The fix worked perfectly. Changes some of the shift points but mileage and reliability have been great. I would seriously look at a vw diesel as a commuter car. __________________________ The entire reason for the Second Amendment is not for hunting, it’s not for target shooting … it’s there so that you and I can protect our homes and our children and and our families and our lives. And it’s also there as fundamental check on government tyranny. Sen Ted Cruz | |||
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From your lips to God's ears, nothing but truth. I picked up a used FiST last fall. Funnest car ever (and gets good mileage, to boot.) | |||
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I'll throw in another vote for Mazda. My wife bought an '18 through Costco's program and saved a bunch. The Mazda3 has great fuel economy, is reliable and it's quite sporty too. They did an update for 2019 but I have no idea as to the differences. | |||
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I've had a 2015 Honda Civic SE for a year now, bought as a CPO, 30K, I'm at 48K now, nothing but 2 oil changes done, rides well, CVT takes a bit to get used to, mileage was 36 when I bought it, then dropped to 34 with winter blend gas, it is starting to creep up a bit now, back to 35 using the onboard computer https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/ | |||
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