quote:

Seeing some idle as others were going, made me wonder why they don't engineer these to be able to turn into the wing for optimal power generation?

I’m pretty sure they are able to.

They are trying to build a wind farm off the coast here in VA. I can't help but think what a cat 4 hurricane, Fiona, like the one between here and Bermuda would do to them.

quote:

Originally posted by fiasconva:
They are trying to build a wind farm off the coast here in VA. I can't help but think what a cat 4 hurricane, Fiona, like the one between here and Bermuda would do to them.

Well... They would make lots of electricity right up till the end.

I don’t think they’re such an eyesore, but I see how others may not like them. I feel a large PV installation to be way uglier. However, I hate that wind is being touted as 100% green, for all the reasons already illustrated in this thread. Bird kills, blade waste, etc seems to be a real problem, and would be crippling if wind is rolled out in the quantity required by the greenies.

Like sigcrazy, I don't think they look that offensive....at least where I've seen them, but that they tout they're so green is bullshit. Like he said as has been said in this thread, it's proven they aren't green at all. I don't know how true this is, but I once read it takes more energy to build a wind generator than it is ever capable of generating in it's lifespan. How f'd up is that?

Wind has been used for 100's of years on farms to pump well water and was very useful for that application. In the end, energy in, can't result in more energy out. Physics you know. Just like wind sails can't propel a fully loaded container ship no matter how many sails are employed. Well maybe if the wind was right, and the ship was going in the ideal heading and you don't mind 6+ months for a trip that powered ships would do in 2 weeks. The left just doesn't get this. To them it's free power and why wouldn't we want that? They don't want to hear the down and dirty details. It hurts their heads to think about it.

The native Americans said the exact same stuff about Conestoga wagons.

quote:

Originally posted by bendable:
The native Americans said the exact same stuff about Conestoga wagons.

That makes no sense whatsoever

The word did not get this way by sitting around in our hands.

The Europeans did not decide to relocate here because native Americans had all the answers .

We moved here to change every aspect.

Americans have proven time and time again how great we are at learning..

Its judgment that we can not grasp.
We have all the answers , but using the knowledge is where we fall very short.

Driving through West Texas a few years ago we drove by several fields with both windmills and pump jacks in them. Were the windmills providing the electricity for the pump jacks? I'd just love the irony.

This woman is the Secretary of Interior…somehow

I found this interesting.

quote:

She earned her Juris Doctor in Indian law from the University of New Mexico School of Law in 2006, but is not a member of the New Mexico State Bar.
- Wiki

Yeah, clean energy.

Don't tell the greenies that there is a big ol' diesel engine in the hub of every one of them.

From an engineering perspective I’m a huge fan of the SMR technology.

I hope they’re successful.

I saw somewhere that Iowa is the largest producer of electricity by percentage of a state, something around 50% of our energy. It is still behind Texas in total production. Madison County shut them down hard, they enacted REALLY extensive zoning to stop further production beyond what is already there after public outcry. Alot of Iowa isn't too exciting to look at, especially where these wind farms are, but many people like viewing miles and miles of flat to gently rolling fields of nothingness except for some rare hedgerows or the farm every so often. At night you can see their synchronized flashing red lights for miles though. They don't really bug me, but its a "NIMBY" for me though and I can understand the concern to those living near them. I hear getting rid of the blades when they age out or break down is an ordeal as well.

I think they look like shit. Large monuments to stupidity and corruption. Only thing worse are solar farms and the huge chunks of real estate they lay to waste. A couple counties in southern Minnesota voted to put a green energy solar farm on a year long moratorium. But it will go through after that. It will replace 5000 acres of farm land.

Between burning our food in cars (ethanol) and reassigning farm land to solar and wind farms that grows our food this green energy shit is going to starve us to death.

they may not be around too much longer...they created a bunch of gazillionaires, mi$$ion accomplished, no reason for continued junk science malingering...

This message has been edited. Last edited by: sse,

I gotta wonder what the 450 farmers in Iowa and Illinois are thinking about their decision to allow them in their fields .

All those massive concrete bases smack dab in some very productive farm land.

Cha-Ching ! Is what they are thinking when they read their bank statements!

Think of the fines and punishments you or I would face if we so much as picked up a single eagle feather.

I have a piece of property in town, not the slightest bit rural, that’s within so many hundreds of feet of a Bald Eagle’s nest. I actually have to pay a professional to make sure the nest isn’t active before I’m allowed to trim my own trees.

Yet another article on the eagles, other raptors, neotrops, and bats slaughtered by these damn things.

quote:

Ecologist Shawn Smallwood has made secretive trips to Wyoming to collect data and provide to law enforcement information on eagles and other birds cut down by turbines. He said the wind industry turned on him because he’s “not a team player.”

I never thought about the fact that you must be there at night to get anything approaching an accurate assessment
of the loss of avians “because that’s when bats come out, and coyotes, foxes, squirrels and other predators zig-zag around on the ground underneath the wind turbines to find dead carcasses to feast on.

He’s the lone guy, sitting still in the dark, watching. Nearby is his pricy $34,000 thermal camera to see animal movement at night, binoculars and a GPS device that he uses to map the location of carcasses and animals.

‘The early bird catches the worm’.”” he said.

Cowboy State Daily