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Car Warmup/Cooldown Question

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February 06, 2023, 08:19 PM
PASig
Car Warmup/Cooldown Question
This young guy who lives across the street from us drives what appears to be a some of turbo Volkswagen hatchback. EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. He gets into it and revs it and just sits with it for like 5 minutes straight which would be annoying enough but it’s got this stupid fart can exhaust too. Then he drives off.

And when he gets home, he doesn’t just park the car on the street and get out and go into his house. No, he sits there and idles and revs the car for another 5 minutes.

Is there some sort of reason for this? I didn’t think modern turbochargers required this kind of babying? Or is he just an asshole who wants to let everyone know he’s coming and going?

It’s just annoying to hear him vroom vroom vroom every dammed day.


February 06, 2023, 08:22 PM
Balzé Halzé
He's an idiot.

Next question.


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February 06, 2023, 08:36 PM
ZSMICHAEL
Hint. It is not about the car.Observe more closely.
February 06, 2023, 08:38 PM
Nismo
We seem to have the same neighbor.
February 06, 2023, 08:40 PM
P250UA5
I could see if it were an older turbo car, or aftermarket turbocharged. I recall turbo timers being a big thing on imports when I was in college.




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February 06, 2023, 08:46 PM
Aeteocles
A turbo can benefit from a few minutes of oil circulation before shutoff if driven hard before coming to park. If the turbo is still spinning at several tens of thousands of RPM when the oil supply is cut, it can cook the bearings in short order.

On start up, modern cars (i.e., not carbureted) don't benefit from a warm up period. They do benefit from being gently driven until engine temp comes up to operating temp.
February 06, 2023, 08:49 PM
Dwill104
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
He's an idiot.



This. I’m sure he going to claim that he’s bringing the turbo bearings up to temperature slowly after startup, and then letting the bearings cool down at the other end, but unless he’s running full boost every second from the time he pulls out of the driveway until he pulls back in, he’s not going to damage the bearings. I’ve had various turbo cars since my 88 RX-7 turbo, and haven’t ever done this.
February 06, 2023, 08:51 PM
Orguss
If he’s revving the motor before shutting it down, he’s not doing his turbos any favors. As others have said, turbos like to be run at idle for a bit in order to cool down but it’s not really important on newer turbo cars.

As for idling before driving, perhaps he’s cold and waiting for the heater to work?



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February 06, 2023, 08:56 PM
Copefree
People used to install turbo timers on their 90s / 2000s turbocharged cars .. a device that would continue to run the engine for a predetermined amount of time after you “turned it off” to prevent premature wear on the turbo(s).

They’re not really a thing anymore, though.


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February 06, 2023, 09:03 PM
drill sgt
Know a guy that back in the day had a Buick Grand national turbo and he did something simular with the warm-u and cool down times but do not remember the reving (vroom vroom)...... Check carefully the local laws concerning vehicle exhaust sound emmisions ... Some of the laws are written so that any modifications to OEM systems that changes the factory sound is illegal.... Problems come into play when trying to get the police /the city / and the courts to actually enforce these laws...and if they are written correctly they do not need a decible meter for sound level checks................................. drill sgt.
February 06, 2023, 09:10 PM
hrcjon
Two different issues. Turbo engines of any type benefit from warmup and cool down. But revving the engine in those two periods is seriously negative. None of those facts probably matter to your situation.


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February 06, 2023, 09:17 PM
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February 06, 2023, 09:17 PM
MikeinNC
The fart can exhaust tells you everything you needed to know why he does that.



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February 06, 2023, 09:18 PM
cas
Maybe he has OCD/routine type issues and it has little to do with the engine itself.
February 06, 2023, 10:12 PM
83v45magna
Sounds like he has what we used to call a 'wooten motor'.
February 06, 2023, 10:37 PM
OKCGene
He's probably a member of the ShitBox Nation and that is his mating call. Unfortunately he can't get a date while living in Mom's Basement while driving the above mentioned type of car.

Yep, the Shit Box Nation is a real thing. They're also on the book of faces, instagram and other social media sites.

Even Frank of Fridays With Frank encountered a Shit Box Nation guy.


February 06, 2023, 10:49 PM
egregore
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
He's an idiot.

Next question.

That sums it up. He's going to have a blown turbo or engine before long. At least then you'll get some quiet.
February 06, 2023, 10:58 PM
x0225095
OP, you had me buying whatever you are selling at “stupid fart can.”

Dude, your neighbor is just one of those guys. Sorry. I don’t think any level of subterfuge or mansplaining is going to fix it.

My best advice is a bag of sugar if you know what I mean … wink wink.


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February 07, 2023, 01:15 AM
Prefontaine
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
He's an idiot.

Next question.


This. I’ve had many turbos, and this deal is absolute bullshit.

What’s happening is that everyone is stupid now, aka Idiocracy. It’s everywhere too. Think about it like this: You were young, and learned by reading books, magazines, and DIY. These 2 generations have grown up with their head buried in a 6 inch piece of glass sliding their fingers. So that real world knowledge, reading and learning, are all gone. This is why you see this asshat behavior. I mean tonight at the gym, people all over, camp on gear for 30 minutes playing with their phones. Not even 10% are in there breaking a sweat. We have a society full of moronic ass holes now.



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February 07, 2023, 02:26 AM
David Lee
quote:
Originally posted by Prefontaine:
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
He's an idiot.

Next question.


This. I’ve had many turbos, and this deal is absolute bullshit.

What’s happening is that everyone is stupid now, aka Idiocracy. It’s everywhere too. Think about it like this: You were young, and learned by reading books, magazines, and DIY. These 2 generations have grown up with their head buried in a 6 inch piece of glass sliding their fingers. So that real world knowledge, reading and learning, are all gone. This is why you see this asshat behavior. I mean tonight at the gym, people all over, camp on gear for 30 minutes playing with their phones. Not even 10% are in there breaking a sweat. We have a society full of moronic ass holes now.
I bet you are 100% correct. People, and especially youngins cannot wipe their bottom without face in the phone. Watch him PAsig, he's busy with the most important elament in his life, the phone. It makes me want to scream when I see the amount of time wasted due to the cell. Just last evening, a grey Jeep on the fuel island. Puts down the phone, inserts fill nozzle and 35 minutes later, puts the phone back down, removes the nozzle and sets there even longer in the phone. Time and engine idle time aren't even a little bit important. I never seen so much time wasted due to a cell phone. Brain dead.