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Age Quod Agis |
As stated, I need some spares. Is PSA OK, or should I buy once, cry once and go with someone else. I'm not an AR fanatic, (I only have 4 of them) and will likely be carting an FAL if shtf. "I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation." Alfred Hornik, Sunday, December 2, 1945 to his family, on his continuing duty to others for surviving WW II. | ||
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PSA BCGs are just fine. They are mostly what I have used, them or ToolCraft. ARman | |||
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Get Off My Lawn |
I don't anything about PSA parts, but I have always been partial to Bravo Company bolt carrier groups, two of my ARs have 'em, plus I have a backup. My other AR has an LMT one. "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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| Raised Hands Surround Us Three Nails To Protect Us  |
I keep an eye on PSA for Toolcraft being on sale. They can usually be had for under $90 ———————————————— The world's not perfect, but it's not that bad. If we got each other, and that's all we have. I will be your brother, and I'll hold your hand. You should know I'll be there for you! | |||
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I have no experience with psa, so I went with BCM. Good steel, mpi and staked well. I'm in the buy once, cry once club. . | |||
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| I Am The Walrus |
Artie, I read that as birth control glasses and was thinking why do you need them. You don’t wear glasses  _____________ | |||
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| Age Quod Agis |
I had two pairs of those! "I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation." Alfred Hornik, Sunday, December 2, 1945 to his family, on his continuing duty to others for surviving WW II. | |||
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Sigforum K9 handler |
My recommendation would be BCM. The rest of the replacement small parts I get from wherever. But, bolts and BCG’s come from Bravo. Their track record is worth the few extra bucks. | |||
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W07VH5 |
The PSA stuff is fine but you could also check out a Microbest chrome over at https://wcarmory.com/ | |||
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Wilson Combat makes great BCGs -- I have them in most of my AR15s. The WC website currently has them on sale for 20% off. | |||
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Alea iacta est |
When I first read this I was thinking “Birth Control Goggles” (military issue glasses) Wilson Combat has them at 20% off right now, the bolt carrier, not the goggles. https://wilsoncombat.com/acces...-assembly-parts.html The “lol” thread | |||
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I'm accumulating spares as I swap them out for a Sionics BCG. https://sionicsweaponsystems.c...ier-group-phosphate/ The NP3 one is a bit more but it's a nice piece of work. | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money  |
Is this something I should be worried about? Do these parts "fail" after a certain period of use? I'm more a shotgun/pistol guy. I only have one AR rifle, a Sig M400 5.56 NATO, which I bought not too long ago. It's fun to shoot but I'm much more accurate with my scoped bolt action Browning 30.06 hunting rifle at anything over 50 yards or so. I want the AR 15 type rifle to be "good to go" if/when I need it... but I haven't had any failures in the limited amount I've fired it at the range and haven't really considered the need for "spare" parts. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Thanks for the tip! Life happens, so have not had much free time to shoot this past year, but looking to change that in 2024. Given the sale, figure it's time to secure a back-up or replacement while the getting is good. I have a bone stock Colt M4, (No complaints) and a PSA DMR style I assembled myself w/ a 18" heavy barrel and "Premium [PSA] Toolcraft Nickel Boron coated BCG". Have not shot it much but honestly, I wish it was a little more accurate... o Price for 3 similar WC MILSPEC BCGs are about the same; Black Nitride / Phosphate / Nickel Boron... What is the difference between these? o What would the group recommend? o Would swapping out the PSA Toolcraft Nicke BCG with one of these options in theory improve accuracy of my DMR? (Might go go this way and use the Toolcraft one as my back-up | |||
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| Thank you Very little  |
You could just take a drive up to Apopka and see what Spikes Tactical has on hand and have them home the same day. https://www.spikestactical.com...bolt-carrier-groups/ | |||
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| Savor the limelight |
It’s not that the bolt carrier itself fails, but rather the parts the carrier holds can fail and swapping a complete BCG is much simpler and quicker than tearing a BCG down and replacing the broken parts. If you have a little time, a spare bolt assembly, firing pin, and firing pin retaining pin are all you probably need. | |||
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It won't do much for accuracy unless the bolt is out of spec. As far as coatings and whatnot.. NP3, chrome or phosphate is the best options. Nitride, NiB and such will have looser tolerances due to it being a surface treatment and not a coating like NP3 or chrome and be less efficient gas wise and can wear faster as well. The nitrided ones I swapped out were quite a bit looser where it mattered than the phosphate, NP3 and chrome ones I have. | |||
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| Just because something is legal to do doesn't mean it is the smart thing to do. |
I guess I need a little learning on this subject. I understand having some spare parts but with only 3 ARs , 2-5.56 & 1-9mm. I don't shoot mine as much as many of you but why would you need 2 or more BCG for spares? Do they wear out that often? What is a reasonable number of rounds lifetime should I expect out each original BCG? Integrity is doing the right thing, even when nobody is looking. | |||
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I don't see a need for a complete BCG but wound up with them when I replaced them with "better". I replaced the extractor spring with a BCM spring kit in the bolts, keep a complete BCG in a drawer and a bolt, FP and retaining pin in my range bag tool kit in the off chance that a lug shears or something like that. | |||
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quarter MOA visionary |
When they had a blow out sale earlier this year, as pointed out by someone here on SF (thanks), I bought two WC BCG's for $99 each! | |||
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