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Nullus Anxietas
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NBC news just reported it wasn't foreign intrusion but a coding error.

Good grief. It's not as if it's that hard:

/*
 * Iowa Democrat Caucus Vote Tallying
 */
 
while (ballots)
do
    if ballot == Sanders
        if candidate_total(Sanders) gt (candidate_total(Biden) and candidate_total(Warren))
            ballot = rand(candidate other than Sanders)
    endif
done

++candidate_total(ballot)



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Fox is reporting the app wasn’t vetted for cyber security. Wow.


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It’s actually pretty alarming that this sort of stuff is happening. They’ve lost all credibility.
 
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It’s actually pretty alarming that this sort of stuff is happening. They’ve lost all credibility.

Begging the question, as it assumes a fact not in evidence. To wit: The DNC had any credibility left to lose.



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I think this is some funny shiff,they do not seem to be able to do anything properly.
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This is hilarious, but not a surprise from Clown News Network:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/...er-iowa-caucus-chaos

Hey Wolf, didn't anybody ever teach you to REPORT the news, not MAKE news? LOL
 
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Fox is reporting the app wasn’t vetted for cyber security. Wow.


So the party that has been screaming and crying about foreign hacking, collusion, and influence on the last elections, uses software not vetted for cyber security?

That couldn't have been an accidental oversight given their unreasonable fear of hacking. If so, everything you need to know about the competency of the DNC is right there




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I posated this in response to Kevin's note in What's Your Deal but it also belongs here.

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The GOP system is far less theatrical and much simpler. Went to my first in 2016, it was held in a banquet hall with lots of round tables. No standing, no moving around, no separate groups.

They checked our names to ensure we were indeed registered Republicans. After a brief intro, candidates were allowed speakers for a one minute "Why you should vote for him/her" speech, though some candidates had no speakers.

Then we voted on a piece of paper. They counted the votes in front of everyone, each candidate was allowed a monitor to view the counting. They announced the results. THE END.

Even without (cough, cough) coding issues, the Demokrat process sounds like a total cluster.
 
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February 4, 2020
The Democrats' nightmare scenario is unfolding before our (and their) eyes
By Thomas Lifson

Karma is knocking on the door at the Democratic National Committee's Washington, D.C. headquarters. The party of the plutocracy masquerading as the savior of the underclass, a coalition of grievance-fueled identity groups not completely comfortable with each other, may finally face the reckoning it so richly deserves. The only thing that unites eco-fanatics with the blue-collar labor unions, blacks with gays and Jews, or socialists with Wall Street financiers is the quest to harness the power of the state to their own interests.

The optimistic take on the current fiasco rendering Democrats incapable of announcing the results of the Iowa caucuses is that the party is hopelessly incompetent. They have shamed not just themselves, but the state of Iowa, which is now denied its quadrennial place in the national spotlight and made to appear like a bunch of rubes, primitives, and idiots. Don't expect the Dems to win Iowa's electoral votes this year.

The conclusion is inescapable that Democrats should not be trusted with responsibility for Americans' health care (or anything else important), as Trump's campaign manager Brad Parscale gleefully tweeted:


Brad Parscale -
✔ @parscale

Democrat party meltdown.

They can’t even run a caucus and they want to run the government.

No thank you.

The less favorable interpretation is that the results are being deep-sixed because they would show Sanders-supporters taking a solid lead. And anyone with a suspicious mind would note that for the first time ever, the Des Moines Register's pre-caucus poll results also were withheld from the public, allegedly because there were technical errors resulting in Pete Buttigieg not being an option for one or more respondents to choose, but, in the suspicions of many, including Steve Bannon, because they would add to the momentum of Sanders.

Now comes news that even without momentum from Iowa, Sanders is opening up a substantial lead in New Hampshire:

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) has taken a massive lead in New Hampshire as the nation's first primary quickly approaches, leading his closest competitor by 15 percentage points, according to a 7 News/ Emerson College Polling tracking poll released on Monday.

The socialist senator is dominating in his neighboring state, leading his closest competitor, Joe Biden (D), by double digits in New Hampshire. According to the survey, which was taken January 31–February 2, 2020, Sanders leads the field with 29 percent support. A cluster of candidates, who are separated by one percentage point each follows, with Biden seeing 14 percent support, Pete Buttigieg (D) garnering 13 percent support, and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) finding 12 percent support.

The DNC's ruling elites fear a wipeout in November if Sanders gets the nod. The last time the Democrats ran an outright leftist, George McGovern in 1972, they lost 49 states and handed the GOP a 23.2% popular vote margin. While a generation of indoctrination in the schools and universities has softened the electorate's resistance to socialist nonsense, Sanders's brand of leveling is far harsher than McGovern's, and his track record of embracing hard-line Marxism, including his honeymoon in the USSR, is so blatant that even many progressives — the affluent ones in the suburbs and tony urban neighborhoods — would have second thoughts about supporting him and handing control of Congress to the donkeys so they can institute a wealth tax and open the borders.

Joe Biden, supposedly the insurance policy against Sanders, has become pathetic. His corruption via family members enriched by trading on his position and influence has been exposed thanks to the House impeachment, and he keeps embarrassing himself in front of groups by failing to realize where he is or what his point might be. Nobody with healthy skepticism will accept whatever results might be produced out of Iowa, but fragmentary accounts of caucus turnout are not helping his cause:

But denying the nomination to Sanders, as the party did in 2016, risks alienating his supporters, who all realize that the party schemed against their hero and cannot be trusted. The Bernsheviks and the identity group mavens just saw the DNC cravenly change the rules for participation in the next debate so that Michael Bloomberg can participate, even though he utterly failed to meet the requirements for a minimum number of donors. How is this not whoring themselves out?

There are no political saviors waiting in the wings, either. Elizabeth Warren is tanking because voters can recognize such a phony with such a track record of self-serving lies. Pete Buttigieg is verbally fluent, but he has left South Bend, Indiana in worse shape than it was before his eight years as mayor and has no accomplishments beyond contributing to McKinsey consulting reports for clients. And then there is the question of black turnout for an openly gay candidate.

As Steve Bannon told Maria Bartiromo Sunday, Hillary Clinton probably would be the nominee emerging from a deadlocked convention once the superdelegates vote. Having blown one election to Trump and lacking the energy to campaign on a scale remotely comparable to Trump, she would lose again, especially without the backing of the Sandersnistas.

I take seriously the advice that we don't get cocky. Yes, the electorate is nearly evenly divided between pro- and anti-Trump voters. And yes, a lot can happen in nine months.

But the unstable coalition of the Democrats is coming apart at the seams. Basing their appeal on anger carries with it the danger of the anger turning against one another. That is becoming increasingly likely.


https://www.americanthinker.co..._and_their_eyes.html



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Biden Threatens Lawsuit To Halt Release Of Real Iowa Caucus Results

https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...se-real-iowa-results

The Democratic candidates appear to be headed for an epic court battle to determine who won the Iowa caucus - a court battle that could potentially outlast the entire primary season and ensure that the real winner of Iowa (cough - Bernie Sanders - cough) is never revealed.

Following a morning of grumblings and whispers among the five campaigns - Warren, Klobuchar, Biden, Buttigieg and Sanders - the Biden campaign has sent a letter to the Iowa Democratic Party warning them that Biden is ready to take the issue of who actually won the primary all the way to the Supreme Court.

Biden campaign general counsel Dana Remus sent a letter to top Iowa party officials demanding "full explanations and relevant information" about the abysmal breakdown of the Dems support-tallying app.



The letter noted that both the primary system for counting votes - the app made by mysterious Bond-villain wannabe SHADOW - and the backup system - telephonically phoning in results - failed. Now, caucus chairs, the leaders of each individual caucus district, are attempting to report results via telephone to the party brass, but many of them aren't getting through.

But here's the kicker: The Biden campaign would like a "full explanation" of what happened before the results are released.

That little detail shows exactly what the Biden campaign is getting at. His team is clearly aware that the chaos benefited all of the centrists still in the running - Buttigieg, Biden and Klobuchar - while hurting Sanders (believed to be the real winner) and Warren.

The letter was sent before a Tuesday morning conference call between the IDP and the campaigns. During the call, the party said they would report half of the results at 5 pm ET (4 pm local time). There were reportedly many objections to this plan on the call. We imagine most of those objections came from the Buttigieg and Biden camps.

As Nate Silver explains, if the results aren't released immediately, the winners will be robbed of the post-Iowa bump, giving the moderates in the race a 'mulligan'.

Other reports claim Bernie campaign staffers went around recording vote totals at many Iowa precincts - unbeknownst to the party machine. When their early tallies didn't match the recorded results from campaign workers, his campaign sent 5 lawyers to complain.

Biden just needs to stay in the game until we get to South Carolina, where Sanders is weakest. Meanwhile, political talking heads are talking about how this incident could rob Iowa of its first-in-the-nation status. But if a legal battle erupts, Biden wins by default: A delay in releasing the Iowa results is a win for Biden and Buttigieg, and a huge problem for Bernie - at least in theory.

In reality, his campaign now has plenty of ammunition to revive the narrative that the primary has been rigged against him - much to the consternation of party loyalists.

American democracy - ain't it grand?


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They forgot to update the code from the last caucus, so Hillary won again.
 
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I love this Goodfellas photochop:



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So the telephones in Iowa aren’t working?


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The entire collection of Democrats aren’t smart enough to run a self serve gas bar at a 7-11



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This is too good to ignore, the name of the company that wrote the app...

Shadow Inc.



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This is too good to ignore, the name of the company that wrote the app...

Shadow Inc.


Headed by Crooked Hillary's ex campaign manager Robbie Mook. Yes, it's true.

I'd love to see Bernie Bros go 3rd party.


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This is too good to ignore, the name of the company that wrote the app...

Shadow Inc.


Headed by Crooked Hillary's ex campaign manager Robbie Mook. Yes, it's true.

I'd love to see Bernie Bros go 3rd party.
Source? The reason I ask is that HufPo is reporting it as Gerard Niemira, a veteran of Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.

Wikipedia has Robby Mook "working" at Harvard's Kennedy school. In fact, he is on Twitter denying being involved in Shadow



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The chair of the Iowa Democratic Party wrote an email distributed to election officials on Tuesday morning saying precinct results from Monday’s caucuses would be collected by hand, signaling a drawn-out process that could add many hours to an already chaotic caucus.

“Today, Tuesday February 4th, party staff will be meeting with each and every county and party chair or temporary chair in Iowa to collect voter results, caucus math worksheets, presidential preference cards, and new voter registration forms,” state party chair Troy Price wrote in an email obtained by Yahoo News.

“What comes next is vital to the integrity of our Caucus process, and we need each of your efforts in order to make it happen,” Price wrote.

Later in the morning, Price told campaign officials on a phone call that he expects to release results at 4 p.m. today.

The Iowa Democratic Party held a conference call Tuesday afternoon with all of the candidates’ teams to update them on the process. At the top of the call, a source said, Price promised to release the “majority of results” from the caucuses by 4 p.m.

Those results, however, will not include all precincts. When an unnamed aide asked when the rest of the results would be reported, a state party spokesman said that they are “continuing to work through that process.”

“Today, tomorrow, the next day, a week, a month?” pressed the unnamed staffer.

“We are continuing to work through our process just as soon as we can. As soon as we are able to, in a timely manner, we’ll release the results,” the spokesman replied.

Price on the call attempted to assure the campaigns that the party has “a process in place” for collecting and releasing results.

Biden campaign general counsel Dana Remus questioned what Price meant. “It’s not clear to me whether you’re saying you’re releasing the majority of results from the state or just the majority of results that you all now have, not indicating whether you have complete results,” Remus said

The state party officials were asked by one campaign staffer what they meant by the majority of results. They would only say that it would be the figures from more than 50 percent of the caucus sites.

The chaotic call between party and campaign officials came as Price and the rest of the state party have been scrambling to respond to criticism on all fronts, from presidential campaigns, caucus leaders and members of the GOP, following a decision Monday evening to slow down reporting caucus results for “quality control.”

Cody Hankerson, a 24-year-old precinct captain in Sioux City’s 28th, says he found the app especially glitchy in reporting second realignment data, which refers to when supporters of candidates who fall below the 15 percent threshold are forced to join with backers of another potential nominee. Hankerson told Yahoo News he was unable to properly account for voters who chose not to align with another candidate and, rather, simply walked out.

In Hankerson’s precinct, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders was unable to hit viability, and about half of Sanders’s supporters left the caucus site instead of realigning. But Hankerson found himself unable to account for that within the app because it was impossible to record “fewer attendees than what you started with,” he said.

Unable to enter that in the app, he noted those voters as uncommitted.

“The biggest problem I had was reporting realignment. When I saw hours later a statement from the IDP noting that there were inconsistencies in reporting, I felt it must have been that,” he said.

Hankerson — who attended caucus training for the last six months — found the app interface difficult to use and first came into contact with a “test” version of the results reporting app four days before the caucuses. He received no formal tutorial, he said.

A senior adviser to a presidential campaign with a background in digital issues told Yahoo News that many people were not surprised by what happened. Democratic tech expertise “is so insular [and] is why we’re falling behind,” the adviser said.

Democrats have let people fail up for so long, and these are the consequences ,” the adviser said. “Everyone hires their friends and everyone they used to work with without any vetting all the time.”
 
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So surely there were people.in the rooms tallying up the score... do these fools.not have a pen, paper, and a telephone?

No reason this should.take this long.





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Originally posted by cparktd:
This is too good to ignore, the name of the company that wrote the app...

Shadow Inc.


Headed by Crooked Hillary's ex campaign manager Robbie Mook. Yes, it's true.

I'd love to see Bernie Bros go 3rd party.
Source? The reason I ask is that HufPo is reporting it as Gerard Niemira, a veteran of Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.

Wikipedia has Robby Mook "working" at Harvard's Kennedy school. In fact, he is on Twitter denying being involved in Shadow


Mark Steyn was riffing on Mook/Shadow today on Rush's show and then a quick google search turned up much conflicting info.

How do you know team Hillary is lying? Their lips move. Why would anyone believe anything Mook tweeted?

https://www.dailydot.com/layer...by-mook-iowa-caucus/


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