https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2kkrxdpndo

A man has been jailed for 24 years for raping an "extremely vulnerable" 12-year-old boy after the pair met on a dating app.

Stephen Ireland, 41, who co-founded Pride in Surrey in 2018, raped the child at the flat he shared with his then-partner and co-defendant David Sutton, 27, in Addlestone on 19 April 2024 after messaging on Grindr.

Ireland was also sentenced to a further six years on extended licence, while Sutton was jailed for four-and-a-half years for making indecent photographs of children and possession of an extreme pornographic image.

At Guildford Crown Court on Monday, Judge Patricia Lees said Ireland "took advantage" of a vulnerable child.

The boy - referred to in court as Child A - who had been reported missing at the time, told police they had sex in the flat, smoked a bong which was later found to have contained methamphetamine, and that pornography was played on a laptop.

The court heard the boy had initially told Ireland he was aged 17 – but when he later claimed to be aged 13, Ireland replied: "OK – we just have to keep it a secret."

"Your response was telling," Judge Lees told Ireland, who sat in the dock dressed in a large red T-shirt and showed no emotions throughout the hearing.

"Far from finding that repugnant, you found that exciting, and sought to do it again."

Surrey Police police custody photo of David SuttonSurrey Police
David Sutton was jailed for four-and-a-half years
In a Telegram chat that took place after their encounter, Ireland sent Child A a message in which he described his age as "naughty and kinky", the court heard.

On the same day, Ireland asked the boy if he would have a threesome and sent the child pictures of himself and Sutton.

Jurors heard that Ireland sent a picture of Child A to Sutton, describing him as a "14-year-old baby" who "wants to play with men's bodies", and the pair exchanged messages about the child.

Ireland along with Sutton, who was a volunteer for Surrey Pride, were found guilty of a string of sexual offences against children including voyeurism, arranging commission of a child sex offence, and possession of prohibited images of children, after a trial at Guildford Crown Court earlier this year.

In August 2022, Ireland and Sutton discussed arrangements to procure a 13-year-old boy for Sutton's 25th birthday in October of that year, the court heard.

'High likelihood' of grooming
Ireland and Sutton were also found guilty of one count of voyeurism and one count of perverting the course of justice.

The court heard that Ireland had watched live camera footage of Sutton having sex with a 16-year-old boy at their flat in March 2024.

The teenager did not know he was being recorded, with Ireland sending Sutton messages such as "he doesn't know I'm here" and telling him what to do, the court heard.

"You fed off one another," Judge Lees told the defendants during the sentence hearing on Monday.

"You definitely supported one another in your perversions."

Ireland and Sutton also perverted the course of justice by intentionally deleting material and search history from their phones after they were released on police bail in June 2024.

Ireland was sentenced for one count of rape, three counts of causing a child under 13 to engage in sexual activity, sexual assault, conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with a child, arranging commission of a child sex offence, six counts of making indecent photographs of children, four counts of distributing indecent photographs of children, possession of prohibited images, and possession of an extreme pornographic image.

Sutton was sentenced for offences including voyeurism, possession and distribution of prohibited images of children, and perverting the course of justice.

Judge Lees said: "Stephen Ireland is a man who prided himself on being versed in and highly alive to the vulnerabilities of young people linked to the Surrey Pride organisation he was at the time pivotal to.

"'A' was quite obviously to any adult an extremely vulnerable child who was highly sexualised.

"Any responsible adult would have quickly appreciated that there was a high likelihood A is a young man who had been the subject of sexual grooming by adult men at a very early age and been concerned for him instead of taking advantage of him."

Ireland's defence lawyer Alex Kirkler told the court his client did not abuse his position within the Surrey Pride organisation to commit these offences.

The problem is the "parents." It's simply unfortunate that it's someone involved in gay activism.

It's worth noting that gays have to touch a whole bunch of kids to catch up to Catholics and Boy Scouts.

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Originally posted by arcwelder:
The problem is the "parents." It's simply unfortunate that it's someone involved in gay activism.

It's worth noting that gays have to touch a whole bunch of kids to catch up to Catholics and Boy Scouts.

This post makes me sad.

For fuck's sake, this is not a goddamned contest.

We are talking about the most revolting of mankind's actions that often destroy any future civility and humanity of a person.

The effects of stacking exponentially and resulting in grievous damage to the fabric of the existence of the species.

There is no good. There is no win. There is no moving forward. All we get is a steeper slope into the abyss and a greater speed of decent into depravity.

Every adult is responsible in this. Some fight and work against it. Some choose to ignore it. And others are complicit in it. No one gets "Free Parking".

The kids are fine. They need role models, of man and woman.

People involved in the lives of their children, might still have a queer son or daughter.

The "activism" is destroying LGBT rights. Kids can't vote or make adult decisions. If they can choose their sex, don't prosecute people who treat kids as adults?

If you're not straight, good for you. Enjoy your adult life.

If you're going to sexualize children in any way, you'll be buried in that rainbow flag.

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Originally posted by arcwelder:
The problem is the "parents." It's simply unfortunate that it's someone involved in gay activism.

It's worth noting that gays have to touch a whole bunch of kids to catch up to Catholics and Boy Scouts.

Same group but different flag.

Part the bastard
Out.
There are a lot of good people waiting for body parts.

Lungs, kidneys, livers, retnas.

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Originally posted by arcwelder:
It's worth noting that gays have to touch a whole bunch of kids to catch up to Catholics and Boy Scouts.

In general, the ones guilty of molesting young boys among catholics and the Boy Scouts are gay men.

Death sentence for child rapists/molesters.

Need to start paddling them butts again.

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Originally posted by bendable:
Part the bastard
Out.
There are a lot of good people waiting for body parts.

Lungs, kidneys, livers, retnas.

Good plan.

I second that.

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Originally posted by oddball:

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Originally posted by arcwelder:
It's worth noting that gays have to touch a whole bunch of kids to catch up to Catholics and Boy Scouts.

In general, the ones guilty of molesting young boys among catholics and the Boy Scouts are gay men.

Thank you for stating the obvious. The Catholic church was a haven for closeted gays because it required a "celibate" life with no wife or children. And any organization like the Boy Scouts with a lot of young men is going to attract predators that desire young men, and needs to be extra vigilant to prevent them.

From Grok:

"A 2002 Christian Ministry Resources report claimed more allegations of child sexual abuse in Protestant churches than Catholic ones in the U.S., with most perpetrators being volunteers, not clergy. Insurance data from 2007 cited by the New York Times noted about 260 annual reports of child sexual abuse in Protestant churches (covering 165,000 congregations) versus 228 in Catholic churches, despite Protestants being a larger population (48.9% vs. 23% of Americans). A 2018 study mentioned in Catholic Answers suggested 7,095 sexual abuse claims against Protestant clergy or church members from 1987–2007, compared to about 100 annual claims against Catholic priests in the same period."

Are there priests who have committed sexual abuse? Of course, but they are FAR from unique. There are also rabbis, ministers, Boy Scout leaders, Girl Scout leaders, sports coaches, teachers, mothers, fathers, etc..., etc,.... It is a problem that spans everywhere.

Rome’s larger issue was the cover-up. Predators seek access to prey.

EVERY homosexual I know well enough to talk about it, was raped as a child. (Small sample size, but still.)

Not sure if it’s a cause, or just predators seeking vulnerable prey, but it is an issue.

(I think it’s actually more of an issue among lesbians than gays, these days.)

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Originally posted by arcwelder:
The kids are fine. ...

My post was not about gay people.
It was about sexual violence/exploitation in any form or fashion against children by (any) adults.

I went back and read it and realized that it could be taken as the former. It was not.

Denut the offender and hang him from a lamp-post.

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:

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Originally posted by oddball:

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Originally posted by arcwelder:
It's worth noting that gays have to touch a whole bunch of kids to catch up to Catholics and Boy Scouts.

In general, the ones guilty of molesting young boys among catholics and the Boy Scouts are gay men.

Thank you for stating the obvious. The Catholic church was a haven for closeted gays because it required a "celibate" life with no wife or children. And any organization like the Boy Scouts with a lot of young men is going to attract predators that desire young men, and needs to be extra vigilant to prevent them.

BINGO!
It's redundant. Saying the gays have to catch up to the gays.
They have sexual deviants among them and I have no desire to go watch a gay pride parade.
It's whole focus is sex, whips, leather, and so on.
Why does a gay pride parade revolve around sex, leather, and whips?
Because that's their core. A very odd way to express yourself/beliefs

Pride parades don't revolve around sex, leather, and whips. Pride parades are about acceptance and inclusion. The adult stuff is well segregated, though I can't speak for whackadoo places like Sanfran.

EVERYONE should be able to agree that kids are to be left alone. Unfortunately for the "LGBTQI++" or whatever movement, it has been corrupted by zealots and activists, and those nitwits are working backwards.

The DEI cult is literally in bed with the extremists... I hope the backlash is thorough, because normal gay, lesbian, and bisexual people aren't OK with it, but if you're among that group and speak up, you'll be excommunicated.

Between the sports bullshit, and medicalizing kids, the gay rights movement has been set back perhaps decades.

When I was growing up, it was about equality, and wanting to just live.

I feel like both Feminism and Gay Rights have fucked up.. They got equality but wanted more.. Now they get to find out where the line is with regular people.

Leave the kids alone. Or face consequences til you wise up.