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The Justice Department’s decision to give congressional Republicans access to documents about FBI investigations risks exposing sensitive sources or material and poses a critical early test for bureau Director Christopher Wray, current and former U.S. law enforcement officials say.

Some officials view the department as capitulating to a small group of Republicans who are intent on helping President Donald Trump undermine the integrity of the FBI and, by extension, Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into whether Trump or any of his associates helped Russia interfere in the 2016 election.

It’s the latest setback for a law enforcement agency that has long held itself out as doggedly independent and above partisan politics, only to be besieged over the last two years by questions about its handling of politically sensitive investigations into Democrat Hillary Clinton and Republican Trump.

One agent said he’s now concerned that forms identifying FBI informants would be handed over to Congress. If that happened, he said, it would cause him to think carefully about whether to withhold sensitive information from future reports.

Another agent said recent statements about the bureau by Trump and congressional Republicans have made it more difficult for him to get informants to open up.

Trump has tweeted that the Federal Bureau of Investigations is “in Tatters -- worst in history” and has said a senior official committed “treason.”

As the Russia investigation continues to hang over the White House, Republicans in Congress have sought to turn the tables on the FBI by calling into question the fairness and methods of senior agents. They’ve been requesting documents and holding public hearings that focus on alleged wrongdoing or political bias by agents.

The controversy over giving Republicans access to sensitive investigative materials has struck a nerve because it comes after months of rare, intense political scrutiny of the FBI, including former Director James Comey’s handling of the investigation into former Secretary of State Clinton’s use of a private email server.

In the midst of the 2016 presidential campaign, Comey angered Republicans by announcing that there wasn’t enough evidence to charge Clinton for mishandling classified information, a departure from normal procedures calling for the bureau to remain silent when crimes aren’t found. Then, he angered Democrats by briefly reopening the inquiry shortly before election day, a move Clinton contends cost her the election.

The actions by Comey, who was fired by Trump in May, and the criticism that followed began a shift for an agency that was long viewed as apolitical and whose leaders won support from both parties.

Unrest in Ranks

A dozen current and former officials -- all from the career ranks of the FBI and Justice Department, as opposed to the president’s political appointees -- spoke to Bloomberg News on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters and express their concerns.

Their views weren’t uniform but collectively represent unrest and morale problems within the ranks of agents, prosecutors and career officials in response to attacks on the integrity and leadership of the FBI and Justice Department.

Thomas O’Connor, president of the FBI Agents Association, said special agents “are focused on the Constitution and protecting the public” and “their work should be recognized, not denigrated.” The association represents 14,000 active and retired special agents.

“Attacks on our character and demeaning comments about the FBI will not deter agents from continuing to do what we have always done -- dedicate our lives to protecting the American people,” O’Connor said in a statement. “The true story of the FBI cannot be reduced to partisan talking points.”

The FBI declined to comment for this story.

Meeting With Ryan

Tensions between Republicans and the Justice Department deepened in recent weeks as lawmakers demanded sensitive documents and agency leaders resisted turning them over. The standoff led to a dramatic meeting between House Speaker Paul Ryan, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and Wray to discuss potential contempt of Congress charges for failing to turn over documents.

In the end, the Justice Department agreed to give lawmakers material they requested, though it’s unclear whether Republicans will get everything they want.

On Jan. 11, the Justice Department began giving two House committees what could amount to more than 1.2 million documents about FBI investigative decisions made in 2016, including related to the investigation into Clinton. Additional documents are expected to be provided in the coming days.

Current and former officials expressed a number of concerns. One agent said some officials working on Russian counterintelligence probes of any kind might now be hesitant to report their findings to superiors, given the political furor over the Mueller investigation.

A former senior agent said the credibility of the FBI is on the line, and close attention is being paid to how the situation is handled by Wray, who took over as director in August. Agents are waiting to see how assertive the director will be in defending them and other career officials and whether he’ll refuse to hand over documents that might compromise covert sources and operations, the former agent said.

Bias Alleged

Other officials said they’re worried about an effort by Trump and his allies to oust anyone seen as being disloyal to the president. During a hearing in December, Republican Representative Louie Gohmert of Texas named specific FBI officials and asked Wray whether they’ve ever openly displayed a bias against the Trump administration.


Republican criticism about Mueller’s probe intensified after the recent revelation that a top FBI agent assigned to the special counsel’s team sent anti-Trump texts in the summer of 2016. One exchange by the agent, Peter Strzok, with another senior official included remarks “that there’s no way" Trump would win the election but “we can’t take that risk.” Mueller removed Strzok after learning of the texts.

In an interview with the Wall Street Journal on Jan. 11, Trump said the agent committed “a treasonous act” by plotting to overturn the election results. The president also called for Republican investigators in Congress to conclude their probes swiftly.

Wray hasn’t said anything publicly in response to Trump’s suggestion of treason. However, he has repeatedly defended the integrity and professionalism of the FBI workforce in speeches and congressional testimony.

Inspector General

The documents now being turned over were requested by Republican leaders of the House Judiciary Committee and the Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

Some of the requested documents were outlined in a Nov. 3 letter to Attorney General Jeff Sessions and Rosenstein. The documents sought appear to dovetail with areas that the Justice Department’s inspector general, Michael Horowitz, is investigating, such as the handling of the Clinton probe. Horowitz plans to wrap up his investigation in March or April.

It’s uncertain whether the information being turned over might add to Republican claims of bias in favor of Clinton and against Trump during the presidential campaign, and even to efforts to undercut Mueller’s investigation.

“We want the information that Horowitz has,” Republican Representative Jim Jordan of Ohio said. He said interviews also are being arranged with seven FBI and Justice Department officials, as well as others.

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What complete and utter BS.

Agents are concerned that their political activism and bias will be exposed - nothing more than that. And they are using friendly media to push a bogus story to try and cover and justify withholding information from their appointed overseers. Withhold information? Should be instant firing and charged with obstruction.



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It's Bloomberg News, and they have their owner's opinion of all things Republican and conservative.

Those poor, poor FBI agents, loyally toiling in the service of the American People. I'd be interested in knowing the institutional rank of the 12 or so who spoke with BB News. I'd be willing to bet none of them are line agents and all are senior executive level. There's a lot of self serving bullshit in that article, and it sounds like swamp-speak, not let's get to the bottom of it investigator-speak. It sounds like a bunch of Roger Goodell "got to protect the shield" crap.

It may be unfair to say that the FBI is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Democrats, but it is pretty clear that it is a fully paid up member of the swamp establishment. Only those outside the swamp get burned by the FBI. Those inside are "careless" or "didn't intend" to screw up.

Every day that goes by with a new report deepens my disdain for that organization. I used to respect them. Many of the CID agents I knew wanted to work for the FBI when they got out, and they were good investigators that I respected. I am sure that there are good people in there somewhere, but institutionally the place seems rotten to the core.



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Congress has legal oversight over the FBI. They need to turn over anything asked for. By fighting congress they just prove that they are in fact NOT impartial and most likely ARE trying to hide something. The FBI has gotten way too big for their britches. As Tucker noted one night, they consider themselves the fourth branch of government and do not feel the need to have to answer to any other branch.

Agents feel like the integrity of the FBI is being questioned? You're dam right it is. That agency has NO integrity as far as I'm concerned.
 
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To bad J. Edgar Hoover isn't around anymore. Now there was a Director with no political leanings. Wink


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Every honest FBI agent w integrity should be outraged.

They should be outraged against Strzok, Page, McCabe, Baker, and maybe Comey for making the motto "Fidelity, Bravery, Integrity" meaningless.

And any agent defending the actions of these conspirators should be fired. This attempt to bring down an elected president may be the worst case of organized betrayal of our country in modern times.

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Burn the fucking place down.

Fire everyone working there. EVERYONE.

Not reassign. FIRE.





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It’s the latest setback for a law enforcement agency that has long held itself out as doggedly independent and above partisan politics, only to be besieged over the last two years by questions about its handling of politically sensitive investigations into Democrat Hillary Clinton and Republican Trump.


It has change because high level directors/agents have decided to insert their political views and biases into their work. They have done this onto a themselves. I also believe that the FBI, IRS, and the DOJ has been weaponized by the liberal left. Hopefully it will come out and those involved will be prosecuted....but there will be no breath holding from me.


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The Justice Department’s decision to give congressional Republicans access to documents about FBI investigations risks exposing sensitive sources or material and poses a critical early test for bureau Director Christopher Wray, current and former U.S. law enforcement officials say.
Then, the FBI should have kept their nose out of politics, shouldn't they?

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Some officials view the department as capitulating to a small group of Republicans who are intent on helping President Donald Trump undermine the integrity of the FBI


How can anyone come up with such BS?

The Feebs need no help in showing just how badly the organization's integrity has been destroyed.

Who would trust any of them, given the revelations over the past few weeks? Starting at the head of the organization and down through God only knows how much middle management and down to street agents.

And the really, really bad leadership has been there for quite a spell. Witness only one MCF by the feebs. The so-called klinton investigation. Or, the issue of the pre election crap pulled by senior members of the FBI while putting an "insurance" policy together to keep Trump from being elected.


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If any of the career working agents are afraid and it is effecting their morale, it is because their patron in the upper ranks is a fucking criminal.
 
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It used to be the FBI put undercover agents in the mob and Communist Party USA.

It looks like the God Damned Commies are getting back!




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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the FBI doesn't need any help in undermining its credibility

they're quite capable of doing that all by themselves



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Exactly...

"undermine the integrity of the FBI"

What integrity?


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Originally posted by JALLEN:
The Justice Department’s decision to give congressional Republicans access to documents about FBI investigations risks exposing sensitive sources or material and poses a critical early test for bureau Director Christopher Wray, current and former U.S. law enforcement officials say.
Then, the FBI should have kept their nose out of politics, shouldn't they?

Cry me a river


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the FBI doesn't need any help in undermining its credibility

they're quite capable of doing that all by themselves
Bingo! Sorry, but whatever 'issues' the FBI is suffering today were all self inflicted. They deserve every bit of pain and anguish they're supposedly suffering.


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Agents are waiting to see how assertive the director will be in defending them and other career officials and whether he’ll refuse to hand over documents that might compromise covert sources and operations, the former agent said.


The natural question is, Just Who the Fuck Do These People Think They Are?

The boss isn't just a guy running a dairy queen asking for their time sheets, He's the Man, The President of the United States, The Commander in Chief. You don't have to like it, there it is.

You lie to the FBI they cut off your nads; they lie, gaslight, mislead, go smug and silent to the senate and the administration and it's 'you don't understand'.

I keep hearing about the 'good' agents. There's a saying somewhere about when the 'good' just stand around picking their ass.

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Where did the Untouchables go. Its probably very hard to fire the jerks.
 
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What, exactly, are they afraid of? That the FBI is going to turn over about 900 files to the First Lady so she can use them for blackmail? You'd thing it was 1993 or something.

The FBI's problems with ethics date at least to that point. Anyone there with fewer than 25 years on the job grew up in a toxic brew of political meddling.

I'm probably being grossly optimistic about the extent of the problem.


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