SIGforum.com    Main Page  Hop To Forum Categories  The Lounge    Protest ignites after Chicago police fatally shoot man
Page 1 2 3 4 5 
Go
New
Find
Notify
Tools
Reply
  
Protest ignites after Chicago police fatally shoot man Login/Join 
Member
Picture of trickedtrix
posted Hide Post
Nothing to see here, just a usual day in Chi-town. Honestly the boys in blue should just stop patrolling the shit parts of town, let them wipe themselves out.


*Handguns are fine, Shotguns are final
 
Posts: 1238 | Location: IL | Registered: August 06, 2009Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Member
posted Hide Post
This opinion column offers some insight into how some Chicago residents, er...think.

WARNING: The "logic" is painful to read.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/...-20180716-story.html

Column: Another black man is killed by police, and the distrust grows deeper

Dahleen Glanton, Contact Reporter
Chicago Tribune
July 16 3:40PM

Many African-American men in violent neighborhoods carry guns illegally.

Let’s just be honest.

The law-abiding people who live in these dangerous neighborhoods know this. And the police know it too.

Some black men carry guns because their lives, and even the lives of their loved ones, depend on it. Some of them do it because it’s the norm in places besieged with crime. And some black men carry guns simply because they are up to no good.

The problem is that it isn’t always easy for anyone, including the police, to distinguish one from the other.

At this point, as details of yet another deadly police shooting in Chicago are still emerging, I will give police the benefit of the doubt and suggest that uncertainty led them to stop 37-year-old Harith Augustus on a street in South Shore on Saturday.

Police said Augustus was “exhibiting characteristics of an armed person” (whatever that means) and that he “looked like he may have something on him.”

In the weeks to come, investigators will explore whether the officers who confronted Augustus as he walked from his job at a nearby barbershop were merely protecting the public or engaging in something more complex — racial profiling.

Did they look at Augustus and immediately assume that he was one of those black men who carry guns because they are up to no good?

We may never know why Augustus, who by all accounts was a quiet man with a good job as a barber and no history of violence, was carrying a gun. He had the required firearms owner’s identification card to obtain a weapon legally, but he did not have a concealed-carry license to take it in public.

After protesters clashed with police Saturday night at the scene of the shooting, police Superintendent Eddie Johnson quickly released a video Sunday, in an attempt to counter misinformation spread through social media that Augustus was unarmed.

The video includes a still shot of what appears to be a gun in a holster on Augustus’ waist. The footage from one officer on the scene shows three other officers approaching Augustus on the street. But there is no audio of the verbal exchange between them.

The video shows an officer coming up to Augustus and grabbing his wrist, and Augustus breaking away and running into the street.

He appeared to trip and spin around unbalanced. Perhaps he reached toward his waist to regain his posture. But a probationary police officer, with less than two years on the job, thought he was reaching for his gun. So the officer fired, multiple times.

It is too early to know whether the shooting was justified. But we do know this:

Another black man has died at the hands of Chicago police.

Some will argue that Augustus never should have run from the police. They will presume that Augustus tried to flee because he had something to hide, and not that he might have feared for his life. They likely will be the ones who have no idea of the real threat some police officers pose to African-American men, in particular.

Why did he decide to run? Of course, we will never know for sure. But perhaps Augustus had heard too many stories from all over the country about black men dying at the hands of police. Perhaps he was terrified that even a routine encounter could put him at risk of becoming the next victim in this nationwide narrative.

Friends described Augustus as an intelligent man. If that is true, it is likely that he had heard about Philando Castile, a licensed gun owner whom police in Minnesota pulled over and shot to death in 2016 as he reached for his identification.

It is possible that he was familiar with the story of McDonald, who was shot 16 times by a Chicago police officer, and Rekia Boyd, who was killed by a Chicago police detective as she stood in an alley with a group of friends.

And Freddie Gray in Baltimore. Eric Garner in New York. The list of black men killed by police following routine encounters goes on.

Perhaps he did have something to hide. But perhaps he also had a bona fide fear of police. And perhaps his death confirms that his instinct to flee was justified.

It is no surprise that many African-Americans are outraged. Protesters poured into the streets near the scene of the shooting to vent their anger toward police. It was the only recourse for expressing their pain.

So forget the name-calling and the bottle throwing that took place and give the protesters a break this time. Police officers are used to hearing and seeing much worse. Furthermore, no one was seriously hurt.

Try to put yourselves in the young protesters’ place. You would realize just how easily any black man killed by police could have been your father, your husband or your son. It could have been you.

We may never know the answers to many of the questions surrounding Augustus’ death. But one thing is clear:

Some police officers just don’t trust black men. And some black men just don’t trust the police.

Every time a cop guns down an African-American man anywhere in America, the distrust grows deeper. And the chances of reconciliation get weaker.

dglanton@chicagotribune.com

Twitter @dahleeng
 
Posts: 16080 | Location: Eastern Iowa | Registered: May 21, 2000Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Frangas non Flectes
Picture of P220 Smudge
posted Hide Post
Horseshit.


______________________________________________
“There are plenty of good reasons for fighting, but no good reason ever to hate without reservation, to imagine that God Almighty Himself hates with you, too.”
 
Posts: 17880 | Location: Sonoran Desert | Registered: February 10, 2011Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Member
posted Hide Post
I would be willing to bet Dahleen Glanton doesn't live in the "Hood".


*********
"Some people are alive today because it's against the law to kill them".
 
Posts: 8228 | Location: Arizona | Registered: August 17, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Drug Dealer
Picture of Jim Shugart
posted Hide Post
Dahleen is as full of shit as a Christmas turkey.



When a thing is funny, search it carefully for a hidden truth. - George Bernard Shaw
 
Posts: 15529 | Location: Virginia | Registered: July 03, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Member
posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by GWbiker:
I would be willing to bet Dahleen Glanton doesn't live in the "Hood".


She more than likely doesn't. She "specializes" in race, civil rights, and neighborhood violence. Link
 
Posts: 7781 | Registered: October 31, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Member
posted Hide Post
This newspaper "story" reads like an editorial not a real news story. I have lost my respect for the Trib once again.


Officers lives matter!
 
Posts: 3265 | Location: Arkansas | Registered: February 12, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
On the wrong side of
the Mobius strip
Picture of Patrick-SP2022
posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by Bytes:
quote:
Originally posted by GWbiker:
I would be willing to bet Dahleen Glanton doesn't live in the "Hood".


She more than likely doesn't. She "specializes" in race, civil rights, and neighborhood violence. Link


From the linked article.
quote:

Dahleen recently took up piano, which helps keep her sane.


It doesn’t seem to be working.




 
Posts: 4174 | Location: Texas | Registered: April 16, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Member
posted Hide Post
When will blacks take responsibility & quit the victim crap? Good men like Ben Carson, Col. Allen West, Herman Cain, where are the exemplary men of respect?
 
Posts: 5775 | Location: west 'by god' virginia | Registered: May 30, 2009Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Corgis Rock
Picture of Icabod
posted Hide Post
Is there a cultural component to this resistance?

This article suggests that there is:

“And so many times, they resist arrest.

“Why are you telling me to comply if I am not doing anything wrong,?” Shanel Berry questioned in an interview with The New York Times about the rub her and her family has with law enforcement.

Of her sons: “I am trying to teach them to be men, but at the same time I am telling them to back down and not be who they are,” she said of their interactions with law enforcement.

There’s a subtle undertone here — that you should only comply with law enforcement if you believe you’ve done something wrong. Additionally, if you don’t stand up to them, you’re less of a man.

This sort of attitude is making its way into the streets of urban cities — where cops are increasingly being resisted just for doing their jobs. It’s through this resistance that many cases — like Eric Garner’s in New York, or Michael Brown’s in Ferguson — get escalated. In the split-second the officer has to react (in many times to defend himself), often then leads to second-guessing: Was the use of force too much; should more officers been called in; how could the situation been diffused before it even started?

” ‘People are a hundred times more likely to resist arrest,’ a police officer who has worked a decade and a half on the South Side told me. ‘People want to fight you; they swear at you. ‘F– the police, we don’t have to listen,’ they say. I haven’t seen this kind of hatred towards the police in my career,’ ” Ms. Mac Donald reported.”

https://www.washingtontimes.co...cultural-difference/



“ The work of destruction is quick, easy and exhilarating; the work of creation is slow, laborious and dull.
 
Posts: 6066 | Location: Outside Seattle | Registered: November 29, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
  Powered by Social Strata Page 1 2 3 4 5  
 

SIGforum.com    Main Page  Hop To Forum Categories  The Lounge    Protest ignites after Chicago police fatally shoot man

© SIGforum 2024