ABC: Always Be Carrying!

Proof that there are still good folks left in shithole Los Angeles County.

https://abc7.com/post/lucilles...ource-says/19540774/

CERRITOS, Calif. (KABC) -- A man armed with a knife was shot and killed at a restaurant inside a busy shopping center in Cerritos on Sunday afternoon, authorities say.

According to the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department, deputies responded to a report of a person armed with a knife at Lucille's Smokehouse Bar-B-Que in the 11300 block of South Street at approximately 2:12 p.m.

At the scene, deputies found an adult male with an apparent gunshot wound and lacerations. Deputies initiated life-saving measures, but the man was pronounced dead at the scene.

Deputies said a preliminary investigation found that the armed man entered the restaurant and ran through the kitchen/service areas, "frightening customers and staff."

A customer who was "lawfully armed and possessed a valid concealed carry permit" confronted the man and ordered him to drop the knife, according to deputies. That's when the man reportedly charged toward the customer with the knife, and the customer shot him.

A Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department source said an off-duty officer was present and witnessed the shooting, but did not fire their weapon. The man with the knife reportedly stabbed himself before walking into the restaurant, according to the source.

Eyewitness News spoke to an employee who described a graphic scene, saying that what he saw was straight out of a horror film.

"I just saw a guy run in the restaurant with his throat slit, and he had a knife. Once he went to the main dining area with all the guests, I guess there was another guest that was sitting down. He pointed a gun at him, told him to put the knife down, the guy kept walking toward him like Michael Myers. He shot him," the employee recalled.

Investigators believe the incident began before the man reached the restaurant. The sheriff's department source told Eyewitness News the man had been driving a stolen truck before abandoning it and stabbing himself at a nearby Starbucks on South Street.

Magaly Zacarias said she noticed the driver before he ran toward Lucille's.

"I noticed a driver driving recklessly into the plaza. He just left the car there, ran off to Lucille's, and it seemed like he had a knife in his hand, and he was also wounded," Zacarias said. "I got a closer look at the car, and it seems like there was already blood all over the steering wheel and inside of the car."

AIR7 video from above the scene showed a large police presence. The restaurant is inside a large shopping center right off the 605 Freeway.

Zacarias, who works nearby, said the violence was shocking for people who work in the area.

"We were really anxious, especially because this plaza is safe, so it was a little shocking for us to hear what was happening," she said.

Frequent shoppers in the area also said they were shaken by the shooting.

"It's just crazy to think about, because what if we were, well, knock on wood, but what if we were nearby and something like this happened? And now it's like, OK, we have to be careful with our surroundings," said Daniela Reyes of Cerritos.

Javier Reyes said he hopes security is increased.

"Hopefully there's more security, because this is kind of unacceptable that this happened, and it makes me worried to go out for a nice Sunday dinner," he said.

Homicide investigators and the sheriff's department deputies had the restaurant blocked off as the investigation continued. Witnesses and employees were being questioned.

Investigators have not released the name of the man who was shot and killed. They also have not released a possible motive for why he hurt himself and then went to the restaurant.

Deputies said the customer who shot the armed man remained at the scene and is fully cooperating with investigators.

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A customer who was "lawfully armed and possessed a valid concealed carry permit" confronted the man and ordered him to drop the knife, according to deputies. That's when the man reportedly charged toward the customer with the knife, and the customer shot him.

Textbook...Good Shoot!

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Originally posted by p220cop:
have not released a possible motive for why he hurt himself and then went to the restaurant.

"I'll take mental illness, for a thousand, Alex."

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"I just saw a guy run in the restaurant with his throat slit, and he had a knife. Once he went to the main dining area with all the guests, I guess there was another guest that was sitting down. He pointed a gun at him, told him to put the knife down, the guy kept walking toward him like Michael Myers. He shot him," the employee recalled.

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Sheriff's Department source said an off-duty officer was present and witnessed the shooting, but did not fire their weapon.

I wonder why he didn’t. Good on that Good Samaritan stepping up to the plate solving that problem.

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Originally posted by 12131:

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Sheriff's Department source said an off-duty officer was present and witnessed the shooting, but did not fire their weapon.

I wonder why he didn’t. Good on that Good Samaritan stepping up to the plate solving that problem.

“They” didn’t.

(The anonymous pronoun business is kind of humorous, but I’m sure it was an issue of angles and timing.)

I personally live just a short distance from this restaurant. The area has some homeless, especially down at the near water shed wash. Sadly, Cerritos is LA County… It’s still to be determined how the LA liberals will handle this. I suggest he contact Chuck Michel in Long Beach. Just my 2 cents.

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A Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department source said an off-duty officer was present and witnessed the shooting, but did not fire their weapon. The man with the knife reportedly stabbed himself before walking into the restaurant, according to the source.

States perfectly the reason you don't want to use a firearm within Orange Count/LA, if a cop doesn't want to engage a homeless person with a weapon using deadly force, there's no way a civilian would want to do it... Even when threatened with losing their life, they'll probably say by engaging the man first he's responsible in some manner...

No I don't trust the prosecutors/governments in California to do the right thing.

I'd bet that they drag him through legal proceedings that would bankrupt most people.

CA/LA doesn't care what happens to people, only that they control what you do.....

The only way this gets any better is if the citizen's name is Brad Boimler.

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Javier Reyes said he hopes security is increased.

"Hopefully there's more security, because this is kind of unacceptable that this happened, and it makes me worried to go out for a nice Sunday dinner," he said.

Well, Javier, open up your wallet and start paying for it.

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A Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department source said an off-duty officer was present and witnessed the shooting, but did not fire their weapon.

Possibly evading the necessity to say “her weapon”?

The local gun scuttlebutt is that the shooting was justified by LASD, the off-duty officer may not have been in a place to see and hear what the shooter did but...

The shooter is very much in limbo on whether he'll be charged with violating CCW laws.

There are two laws in CA and they are in conflict.

The first one says you cannot CCW in a location where alcohol is the primary purpose of the establishment, so long as you're not drinking. Lucille's is a BBQ place and a definite restaurant.

A little further down it says no carry at all on any premise that has a liquor license.

My guess is that the LA DA will not charge him. Gascon was the prior DA and he was as liberal as can be but the new guy is much more law and order and isn't subject to these liberal infatuations of hating gun owners.

Geez. The author of that really did their best to NOT talk up the responsible gun owning customer who defended himself. Instead, they spend most of their time talking to the poor, scared townsfolk who were incredulous that something like that could happen 'round these parts.

Are the LA County Sheriff’s allowed to carry outside of their official duty times? Does anyone know the policy? The LA County Sheriff covers Cerritos. Just wondering…

Now I understand what a BBQ gun is

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Originally posted by 12131:

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Sheriff's Department source said an off-duty officer was present and witnessed the shooting, but did not fire their weapon.

I wonder why he didn’t. Good on that Good Samaritan stepping up to the plate solving that problem.

Stab in the dark, maybe didn’t see the same thing the CCW holder saw or maybe was just gonna wait til the guy bled out as he had apparently cut his own throat. (I realize that could describe a wide range of injury.)

Once at a location where a lot of people were armed and only one fired and that was mentioned. Opposite of that would be “contagious fire.”

Good for the lawful CCW license holder. The restaurant is right on the border of Los Angeles County (historically difficult to get a CCW) and Orange County (easier to get a CCW)

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Lucille's Smokehouse Bar-B-Que in the 11300 block of South Street

I ate there back when I lived in SoCal 20 years ago. They used to smoke an excellent tri-tip and had some delicious sauces. Now I want tri-tip.

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Originally posted by flesheatingvirus:
Geez. The author of that really did their best to NOT talk up the responsible gun owning customer who defended himself. Instead, they spend most of their time talking to the poor, scared townsfolk who were incredulous that something like that could happen 'round these parts.

I don't imagine that in the aftermath of a self-defense shooting that there would be any benefit at all in talking to the press. Talk about cutting your own throat!

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There are two laws in CA and they are in conflict.

The first one says you cannot CCW in a location where alcohol is the primary purpose of the establishment, so long as you're not drinking. Lucille's is a BBQ place and a definite restaurant.

A little further down it says no carry at all on any premise that has a liquor license.

That doesn't make sense as written. Did you mean to say can in the second paragraph?