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Yepp, it appears for now that going forward BMW is no longer offering the 3 series with a manual transmission. There will probably be M versions with manuals (hopefully) but not for the base and lower trim levels. I think it sucks but if enough people are not buying manuals I suppose such a move is inevitable. Link to article When asked about the possibility of future variants with manuals BMW said: “We would not be able to speculate on what transmission/engine options may be planned for the future. We can say that the sport automatic delivers the absolutely best performance possible from the new 330i and M340i sedans.” Not what I want to hear from BMW. I wonder if maybe they will abandon “the ultimate driving machine” slogan since it doesn’t really make sense anymore? They probably should consider it. I’d like to see more manufactures go the other way and offer manual transmission only sports cars like Honda’s S2000. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance | ||
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Savor the limelight |
I suppose there will be room for more cup holders and USB ports. Pure speculation on my part, but most people just want to get from point A to B without spilling their coffee while keeping up on important texts and emails. I'm really going to miss the manual transmission. | |||
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Rail-less and Tail-less |
It’s not just that. Cars with new automatics and dual clutch transmissions get better gas mileage and therefore meet epa guidelines. There’s a reason you can’t buy a supercar these days with a manual. _______________________________________________ Use thumb-size bullets to create fist-size holes. | |||
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Knows too little about too much |
This. And they're faster. RMD TL Davis: “The Second Amendment is special, not because it protects guns, but because its violation signals a government with the intention to oppress its people…” Remember: After the first one, the rest are free. | |||
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Mensch |
I'm on my 2nd 2-series, an auto this time due to a left knee replacement. If they take the manual option away for my next one, bye bye BMW. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Yidn, shreibt un fershreibt" "The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind." -Bomber Harris | |||
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Mensch |
That's not the point. More control & enjoyment. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Yidn, shreibt un fershreibt" "The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind." -Bomber Harris | |||
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Official forum SIG Pro enthusiast |
Audi did the same thing with the A4 and A5 for 2019 models. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance | |||
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Member |
I was very disappointed I couldn't order a MT in our '18 440xi vert. I think Audi and MB have dispensed with clutch pedals too :-( But, love the MT in the '19 Bullitt Mustang! | |||
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Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
Thank God for motorcyles - at least until they're all automatics. | |||
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Baroque Bloke |
The dual-clutch transmissions are the bees knees! Manual transmissions and torque converters are 20th century technology. I suspect that even F1 cars have dual-clutch transmissions nowadays. Serious about crackers | |||
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Member |
Agreed. So many newer cars are ruined by these garbage 16 speed transmissions, constantly hunting for the right gear to squeeze out that 1 mpg to meet Obama's EPA regs. | |||
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Official forum SIG Pro enthusiast |
Il Cattivo, Yamaha has been rumored to be considering putting a seamless gearbox into the R1. The systems used in MotoGP use loads of small pawls inside the gear wheels, which lock and unlock the gears in a 'ratchet' fashion, so you can briefly have two gears engaged at the same time, but the slower gear freewheels on the pawls, meaning there's no interruption in drive at all. The Yamaha design is intended to avoid the extra weight and the push-button gearshift of Honda’s DCT, instead keeping a normal, hand-controlled clutch and mechanical, foot-operated change. But it allows two gears to be briefly engaged at the same time, so drive is transferred from one to the other without any let-up. If they can pull it off that would be awesome. You are right, thank God for motos! They found a way to keep the clutch and still utilize a quick shifter. Yamaha’s seamless gearbox looks like it would only continue that excellent trend of having the best of both worlds, a clutch when you feel like manually shifting and a quickshifter when you want to bang through the gears with quickness. Shame the auto world can’t create something similar. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance | |||
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quarter MOA visionary |
Say it ain't so. | |||
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Never miss an opportunity to STFU |
Hmm. Whenever I visit relatives in Europe, they ALL have manual trans. This includes BMW, Jaguar, Alfa-Romeo, and what ever else they drive. Their reason is that when they drive they want to enjoy the whole driving experience, including which gear to be in. After working as an engineer in the auto industry for many years, I am sure this has to do with fuel economy and emissions. I would bet you that manual transmissions will be available in other countries, just not USA. Never be more than one step away from your sword-Old Greek Wisdom | |||
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The Unmanned Writer |
New drivers with rich parents, are not being taught how to drive a manual. So much for a cheap[er] form of theft deterrence. Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. "If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go" Will Rogers The definition of the words we used, carry a meaning of their own... | |||
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SIGforum Official Eye Doc |
Guess I'll be happy with my Civic Type "R" as it ONLY comes with a six-apeed manual! | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Some of you guys Just. Don't. Get it. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Member |
THIS.... and a $500-$1000 hit on trade in time, due to car having a manual transmission. ********* "Some people are alive today because it's against the law to kill them". | |||
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Baroque Bloke |
I suppose that some guys are unhappy because they can’t buy cars with non-synchronized transmissions nowadays. That’s an elemental driving experience! Serious about crackers | |||
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Peripheral Visionary |
Lame. | |||
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