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Whoohoo, the new EV trucks are here.

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January 04, 2023, 05:35 PM
powermad
Whoohoo, the new EV trucks are here.
New Volvo tractor.
Not sure why this one got hooked in, there's another dead on the undecking hoist with no way to charge them yet.


What was the engine bay, still has a full size radiator.


One on either side, not sure what it is for.


Battery pack


Required to get another hoist that can handle the battery pack, our 2 ton wasn't enough, had to go to a 3 ton.
Just got it the other day and still have to assemble it.


I haven't been to class on them yet and don't really want too.

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January 04, 2023, 07:06 PM
lastmanstanding
What no sleeper cab?


"Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton
January 04, 2023, 07:37 PM
.38supersig
Have they any information as to the range that this allows? Seems like it would be good for a local distribution ring.

Reminds me of when GM had started a new emissions and diagnostic architecture. Back in 1987 they had what was basically an OBD II system that wasn't standardized until 1995. The system was so advanced, they built the diagnostic equipment into the car.

New and evolving technology means they can be on the cutting edge. Thinking this one is the bleeding edge.

Can't imagine how much something like this will chew tires. Good luck.




January 04, 2023, 07:50 PM
powermad
I'm not sure what the range is on it.
It has a two speed gearbox in it, low and high.
I see port duty in their future.
The EV garbage trucks have been out for a bit now but no one has bought any.

Four went to class for them about a year ago, kinda interested in how they operate and will diving into them whether I like it or not.

I still have one rig with a paperclip diagnostic tool.
January 04, 2023, 08:12 PM
corsair
quote:
Originally posted by .38supersig:
Have they any information as to the range that this allows? Seems like it would be good for a local distribution ring.

Close friend works for CA DOT, they've been testing, reviewing and certifying EV tractors for a few years now. Most of what's due to come out are built for regional hauling and local deliveries. I've heard the Nikola & Tesla tractors will have a 350-500 mile range and fulfill the long-haul segment. I'm sure Freightliner, Volvo and others will have their models shortly. Amazon, UPS, WalMart, CocaCola, FedEx and others have been putting all these tractors through their trials.

He drove a couple of them around, said it was both exciting and unnerving. No more shifting, braking wasn't an issue and it was scarily quiet.
January 04, 2023, 08:17 PM
1s1k
I honestly would have thought the battery pack would have been bigger.
January 04, 2023, 08:22 PM
trapper189
Freightliner?

“Driving range varies between the eCascadia’s two battery capacity offerings. The 438 kWh battery provides a typical driving range of 230 miles on the 4x2 configuration or 220 miles on the 6x4 configuration. The 291 kWh battery provides a typical range of 155 miles on the 4x2 configuration. These ranges assume a gradually diminishing load, consistent usage of regenerative braking, and starting routes on a full charge.” Link
January 04, 2023, 08:32 PM
powermad
quote:
Freightliner?

Mack and Volvo Dealership.
January 04, 2023, 08:56 PM
BigSwede
Useless

EV Tractors are not ready for prime time yet, same goes for pickups when towing



January 04, 2023, 09:42 PM
Aglifter
Port use/dense urban beverage use sounds like a very good use for electric trucks.
January 05, 2023, 12:12 AM
Balzé Halzé
"Whoohoo?" Really? Why are you excited about this mickey mouse horseshit?

A 3 ton hoist? Just for the battery? That's nuts.


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January 05, 2023, 03:05 AM
trapper189
Volvo claims a 275 mile range for their 565kWh 6 battery version that can be charged to 80% in 90 minutes with a 250kW charger. The one in the picture above appears to be the 6 battery version because of the battery pack behind the cab and the battery packs on each side of the frame.

I drive past a WalMart distribution center every weekday. I wonder how many miles a day the trucks drive on the routes from the distribution center to the stores and back drive.
January 05, 2023, 04:51 AM
r0gue
Standing by for spectacular video of batterisplosions. Of particular interest will be when the 11,500 fuel tankers spark off. Study up on your Star Spangled Banner lyrics everyone. It's sure to be recorded by everyone's cell phones. If you're singing that when it happens, you'll get viral notoriety fo-sho!




January 05, 2023, 06:13 AM
jgerge222
Powermad: Do these trucks have standard drive trains hooked to an electric motor, or separate drives for each wheel?
January 05, 2023, 06:16 AM
egregore
quote:
Four went to class for them about a year ago, kinda interested in how they operate and will diving into them whether I like it or not.
I'll be glad to be retiring soon. I'm behind enough as it is.
January 05, 2023, 06:24 AM
SPWAMike0317
Until range is extended and charging stations are standardized and readily available, including at each terminal bay so the tractor can charge while waiting to unload, EV tractors are a novelty.

Companies interested in making a profit are not interested in novelties.

EV will be viable someday. That day is not today. Tomorrow isn't looking good either.



Let me help you out. Which way did you come in?
January 05, 2023, 06:35 AM
egregore
quote:
Until range is extended and charging stations are standardized and readily available, including at each terminal bay so the tractor can charge while waiting to unload, EV tractors are a novelty.

And if the trucks are successful (which remains to be seen), the charging stations will follow. In the early days of automobiling, gas stations were scarce, too.
January 05, 2023, 07:31 AM
powermad
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
"Whoohoo?" Really? Why are you excited about this mickey mouse horseshit?

A 3 ton hoist? Just for the battery? That's nuts.

I need to work on my sarcasm vibe.
Two dead in the water upon delivery does not inspire confidence.

That hoist, that is required had to come out of our tool budget.
In other words we got that monstrosity and now don't get stuff we really need.
January 05, 2023, 10:05 AM
powermad
quote:
Originally posted by jgerge222:
Powermad: Do these trucks have standard drive trains hooked to an electric motor, or separate drives for each wheel?

It has a two speed gear box with a driveline and drive axle.
The first set is just a lift axle.
January 05, 2023, 10:10 AM
BBMW
There are some applications where EVs do make sense. Long haul trucking is NOT one of them.