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goodheart |
Washington Examiner link
Automakers, if they were smart, would start building up a huge inventory of ICE vehicles to sell before the regs go into effect. I might have been interested in an EV before, but now I'm just going to say "Let's go, Brandon!" and get a gas-guzzling SUV, maybe a pickup too. Fuck 'em. _________________________ “Remember, remember the fifth of November!" | ||
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Gone but Together Again. Dad & Uncle |
I'm all for this. As soon as every politician leads the way by fully converting everything they personally own, with their own personal dollars, and only charges their vehicles at home using their own personal electricity, AND THEN, 10 years later proves to us how much they've saved the world. | |||
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They're after my Lucky Charms! |
I wonder if those emission standards include the power generators from the local power companies... Lord, your ocean is so very large and my divos are so very f****d-up Dirt Sailors Unite! | |||
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goodheart |
Looks like most folks think like me: Most people don't plan to buy an EV soon BTW John Solomon's Justhenews.com is a good place to go for conservative news without all the clickbait and red meat. _________________________ “Remember, remember the fifth of November!" | |||
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Doubt it. But it won't be too long before you have to buy a "gasoline purchase permit" to purchase gas for your gas-powered car. On top of the gas-powered tax you'll pay for having a non-ev vehicle registered in your state. Hedley Lamarr: Wait, wait, wait. I'm unarmed. Bart: Alright, we'll settle this like men, with our fists. Hedley Lamarr: Sorry, I just remembered . . . I am armed. | |||
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An investment in knowledge pays the best interest |
The President isn't King. Congress dictates Commerce not the President. This dictate won't go anywhere. | |||
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Partial dichotomy |
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Thank you Very little |
Wouldn't be so sure, this is set by the EPA, all the departments of the federal government are under the white house, so the President can direct the EPA to move forward. This move is being pushed by the Sierra Club, it's simply a change in the way EV's are credited for higher fuel MPGe which is used to calculate CAFE numbers. The higher the rating the more credit is given, which allows the company to continue to make and sell ICE vehicles. Sierra club wants all ICE production stopped, and it's just another way to force building of EV's over ICE. | |||
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Coin Sniper |
It is amazing how Biden and Obama are using/used executive orders to drive agenda. Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | |||
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Savor the limelight |
The natural question is how much of this number comes from people driving cars? The EPA says 57% of the 27% is from light-duty vehicles. Link | |||
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People are not buying EV’s like expected so the government do gooders are going to force us into them. This will basically force manufacturers to save the ICE engines for their working trucks since EV’s will not pull heavy loads any real distances. What this really means is if you thought cars were expensive now you better buckle your chin strap. Not a bad business plan to have the government force people to buy your product. | |||
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No, not like Bill Clinton |
There is a huge pent up demand for them, they can't produce enough or any at all, F150, Silverado, Hummer ETC.. Tell them to make more, genius! | |||
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goodheart |
The legal ability of EPA to regulate greenhouse gas emissions seems to be seriously in question, based on this report from 2022. The Clean Air Act that established EPA was specifically for air pollution, and greenhouse gases are not pollution--certainly not CO2, which is plant food. I'd like to hear an opinion from someone like John Yoo on the constitutionality of this administrative overreach.
OK, here's apparently the "legal" basis for this shit. Thank you, Joe Fucking Manchin. Link: eenews.net
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Master of one hand pistol shooting |
Looking forward to being the 4th car in line for a 30 minute e-fill. Not to mention the call to EEE for an emergency can of electrons high in the Rockies. And a fire extinguisher..... SIGnature NRA Benefactor CMP Pistol Distinguished | |||
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State and local fuel tax revenue will have to come from somewhere. According to the Tax Policy Center, total revenue in 2020 was $52.7 trillion. Link Possibly some states may push back on this? ____________ Pace | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
These environmental wackos are insane! The Build Back Better bullshit only serves to strengthen China and Russia. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Drill Here, Drill Now |
I spend a half day to full day a week on emerging fuels issues, and sit on industry committees. Greenhouse gases is the reason for the emerging fuels push so the first thing I noticed was the use of intentionally misleading GHG statistics. Passenger cars, light duty trucks, medium and heavy duty trucks make up ~55% of transportation emissions (ie 14.9% not 27% of total GHG emissions in US). Taking out the medium and heavy duty trucks lowers it to 10.5%. In other words, Biden admin's justification for foisting EVs on consumers is for 10.5% of total US GHG emissions. Transportation emissions are "on-road" emissions and there has been no calculation on the increased off-road emissions to mine lithium. So the real reduction in GHG will be less than 10.5%. BTW, all of the above is from EPA's own publicly available report. Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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No More Mr. Nice Guy |
A friend who works in the grid infrastructure equipment industry says there is a supply shortage. The raw materials for things like transformers, wire, and other parts are being diverted to electric vehicle production. Kind of a Catch-22 situation. Build a bunch more electric cars but the grid needed to charge them cannot be expanded or repaired because they're building lots of electric cars! | |||
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Don't forget we'll need a massive increase in lithium imports to make all those batteries and replacement batteries. Who has the lithium? China and Afghanistan. | |||
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Here are a couple of business ideas for you younger folks. 1. Start a towing company. I see a bright future for them. 2. Start a mobile charging business. Just a Pickup with a diesel powered generator running a fast charger. Just give them enough juice to get to a chrging station. Would love to see the look on the liberal EV owners faces when you pull up with your big loud diesel generator to bail 'em out | |||
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