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Originally posted by Scurvy:

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Originally posted by fpuhan:
I think Bernie would be both the easiest for Trump to beat as well as the LEAST dangerous for the country. My reasoning? Congress would not pass anything he would want to establish as law. And his executive orders would likely come under fire as well.

Bloomberg I consider the most disastrous. He has no concept of America or Americans. He's an autocratic oligarch with an ego as big as all outdoors.

Agreed 100000%, would much rather see Bernie win over Biden and Bloomer.

You guys are playing with fire. By leaps and bounds, making a communist our next commander in chief is a thousand times more dangerous than either Bloomberg or that imbecile Biden.

For those who believe the Communist would be less dangerous than the other major candidates, have we forgotten that the President doesn’t need congressional approval to do massive harm? As O famously stated and demonstrated, having a pen and a phone and sitting at the right desk is sufficient. Could the others be just as bad, or even worse? Possibly, but as I’ve mentioned before, many people in Germany prior to 1933 were convinced that the man who would be Führer and his minions would be kept under control and couldn’t possibly be as bad as the alarmists feared.

And how would things in 1939 and 1940 have been different if a staunch Nazi or a firm supporter of Japanese aggression in Asia had been President of the U.S.? The few here who have any knowledge and understanding of the history of that era might give it some thought.

There are not many things at my stage of life that send a chill up my spine, but the thought of a blatant Communist in the White House is one of them—regardless of how much support he might get, or not get, from Congress.

Not that any of that matters, of course, and thanks for an interesting poll.

Mini Mike is easiest to beat because no one likes him..., not establishment Ds, not Blacks, not Bernie fans, no one.

Bernie is hardest to beat because he is literally the most popular amongst the people. Even running him is dangerous because of how popular his free shit notions are.

If Bloomberg gets elected we, the people, will have the best Congess that money can buy - and Bloomberg will be buying.

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Originally posted by 46and2:
Mini Mike is easiest to beat because no one likes him..., not establishment Ds, not Blacks, not Bernie fans, no one.

Bernie is hardest to beat because he is literally the most popular amongst the people. Even running him is dangerous because of how popular his free shit notions are.

You may well be right. I'd think that Bernie's free shit notions would scare off any moderates or more centrist Dims though. I think the Dims biggest problem is that their party is so fractured that the folks who would attract one side of the party wouldn't get the time of day from the other side, and vice versa. Time will tell...

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
For those who believe the Communist would be less dangerous than the other major candidates, have we forgotten that the President doesn’t need congressional approval to do massive harm? As O famously stated and demonstrated, having a pen and a phone and sitting at the right desk is sufficient. Could the others be just as bad, or even worse? Possibly, but as I’ve mentioned before, many people in Germany prior to 1933 were convinced that the man who would be Führer and his minions would be kept under control and couldn’t possibly be as bad as the alarmists feared.

And how would things in 1939 and 1940 have been different if a staunch Nazi or a firm supporter of Japanese aggression in Asia had been President of the U.S.? The few here who have any knowledge and understanding of the history of that era might give it some thought.

There are not many things at my stage of life that send a chill up my spine, but the thought of a blatant Communist in the White House is one of them—regardless of how much support he might get, or not get, from Congress.

Not that any of that matters, of course, and thanks for an interesting poll.

So your fear is that President Sanders wouldn't be hawkish enough? He would put communist countries like China's needs over our own?

OK, so this is great mental masturbation, but it really skirts any semblance of reality.

The truth is, for all intents and purposes, Donald Trump is running unopposed.

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So your fear is that President Sanders wouldn't be hawkish enough? He would put communist countries like China's needs over our own?

“Not hawkish enough?” No, I don’t want the President to be hawkish or dovish. I want the President to make decisions involving national security (and today that means about events everywhere on the planet) based on sound and sober consideration and judgment. By coincidence I’m reading Call Sign CHAOS by retired Marine Corps General and former Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis. Where I am right now he’s describing the assault on Fallujah, Iraq, that was prompted by the murder of four civilian contractors (who had no business being there and had been warned to stay out). Although Mattis of course presents his version of events, it seems clear that the political decision to launch the full scale assault was driven by anger, but then the decision to stop as expensive success was being achieved was based on similar political illogic.

As I read the account, I have vivid memories of the war in Vietnam whose operational decisions were often similarly governed by factors other than sound military considerations.

“Would he favor Communist countries?” I don’t have a clear opinion about what Sanders might do in foreign relations, but yes, I fear that he would be driven by beliefs that are not in the best interest of the American people. I believe we saw examples of that in the previous Administration, and I am convinced it would be worse under Sanders. In reference to my earlier comment about how history would have been different if a Nazi or supporter of Japanese aggression had been President, I’m no fan of much of what Roosevelt did, but had our policy been even one of strict neutrality at the time, as it well could have been, I believe the world would be unimaginably different than it is today—and not to our benefit (other than the fact that I wouldn’t exist).

I think Biden is the easiest to beat. If Biden is the nominee, that means Bernie got "schlonged" and the Bernie bros will riot first, then stay home or vote for Trump out of spite for the D establishment.

Bernie will be too old to run in 2024, but Occasional Cortex will take his place; no doubt.

Tony.

I think the real question whether Mini Mike will feel so butt hurt that he takes his billions and decides to give it to schools in Africa or something like that rather than fund Democratic races across the country.

He's been dumping money into state races across Virginia for several election cycles now and it has turned Virginia blue. He was playing a long game where he was attempting to buy support for a potential Presidential run.

If he crashes and burns today, like less than 15% everywhere, he may just decide that politics was a bad investment for him and decide to find something else to do.

I am really surprised at how much contempt there was for him within the Democratic party.

In addition to Bernie, Biden and Bloomberg we have Betty (aka Elizabeth Warren). The Angry Bs.

Bernie would be the easiest to beat, Biden would do the least amount of damage. Bloomberg will buy a democratic majority in Congress then we will be screwed. He will do more damage than any president in history if elected.

Tulsi Gabbard is still in the race but probably not for long.

I'll say it this way...

I don't think Mini Mike or Crazy Joe have any chance of winning, none whatsoever.

Bernie, however, might win. We (rational people who don't want Socialism) are in fact outnumbered.

The Electoral College is the only reason, quite literally the only reason, we don't have President Hillary now.

Biden is past his “use by date”.

That doesn't make him unelectable in a party where being dead is no bar to voting.

Mark Levin is having a good night on the radio. He's referring to the four key candidates as "a moron, a Marxist, an oligarch and a fake indian." Any way you slice it, Trump should make mincemeat out of whoever rises to the top of the dung heap.

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Originally posted by fpuhan:
OK, so this is great mental masturbation, but it really skirts any semblance of reality.

The truth is, for all intents and purposes, Donald Trump is running unopposed.

Realisticlly, the Dems are not lining up to choose a winner, but a perfect loser.
We know it, and they know it.

That would explain why the Texas hippies are out in droves for Sanders tonight. Biden isn't dead yet, though.

This site has an interactive map w vote tallies being updated

https://hotair.com/archives/al...uesday-live-results/

roll your cursor over the map

w 12% in, Biden and Sanders are both beating Warren in MA

So far a very strong night for Biden

It is a sad day for this country that these people are the choices we have.

Sweet another thread about commies so people can prognosticate gloom and doom in.

Well, that and posting the same commentary in different threads.