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potable water container that won't freeze? Such a thing?

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December 22, 2018, 07:10 PM
old rugged cross
potable water container that won't freeze? Such a thing?
Is there a container for drinking water that can be stored in freezing conditions that won't freeze? Without electricity of course Wink



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December 22, 2018, 07:17 PM
lkdr1989
Put your water container in a cooler?




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December 22, 2018, 07:19 PM
MNSIG
I think it's a matter of time. Enough insulation will keep it from freezing for a while, but the contents will eventually get to the ambient air temperature. How long do you need it to stay liquid?
December 22, 2018, 07:33 PM
soncorn
Nalgene bottles won’t be damaged by frozen water. But it is just a matter of time with any container in freezing conditions before the water freezes.


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December 22, 2018, 07:38 PM
old rugged cross
Thanks guys, For a while. Have to haul water at times and leave it. Was hoping there was some kind on new technology type container that would somehow keep it from freezing. Guess not.



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December 22, 2018, 07:49 PM
john1
An arctic canteen works for me.
December 22, 2018, 08:01 PM
radioman
Isn't there something from high school chemistry that says if you put the water under pressure it won't freeze at 32 F , but a lower temp depending on how much pressure?

Or, maybe add a hint of salt or something else to the water?


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December 22, 2018, 08:40 PM
bushpilot
Hello ORC, cheap solar panel (HF) wired to a used battery eating pad placed under the container may work.


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December 22, 2018, 09:40 PM
dlc444
Is this for the still?


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December 22, 2018, 10:07 PM
Woodman
Underground storage.
December 22, 2018, 10:11 PM
old rugged cross
quote:
Is this for the still?

Wink but no.

Thanks guys, some thoughtful suggestions.

I gratefully appreciate it.



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December 22, 2018, 10:25 PM
reflex/deflex 64
I use a thermos, it lasts a long time, not forever though.


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December 22, 2018, 10:26 PM
old rugged cross
I need storage for up to a couple weeks or more.



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December 22, 2018, 10:52 PM
Fenris
Containers made from certain radioactive materials would be able to stay warm for thousands of years. However, there would be other side effects shall we say. Was personal longevity an important consideration for you?




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December 23, 2018, 01:09 AM
kkina
quote:
Originally posted by radioman:
Isn't there something from high school chemistry that says if you put the water under pressure it won't freeze at 32 F , but a lower temp depending on how much pressure?

There might be some good theory there, but I don't know if it would be practical. First of all, it would be a vacuum, not pressure, to lower the freezing point of water. You'd need a setup capable of pulling, say, 1/1000 atm, that would protect from freezing down to about -25C.

1 mbar is basically outer space already, at least for our purposes. Might as well go for a perfect vacuum. That would be some pretty serious lab equipment.





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